Hillary Clinton Continues to Argue Against Guns

[nammac]

This would be so much easier if the enemy were a foreign country instead of politicians in our own country.

Gotta have more love and respect for our country, for our freedom and our liberty than the selfish, self serving politicians...

They're no less tyrannical than the King of England was in 1775... It is April after all...

I fear that the Tree of Liberty will need to be watered by our generation (I'm in my 50's)... If not us, then certainly our children... iI'd rather it be me than them...

 

[nammac]

I think Trump could beat Hillary, he's not that different from Sanders, aside from being a raging bubblegum, and I bet many Sanders supporters would vote for him over Hillary, I will.

Honestly, if Trump becomes a finalist
In the Oval Office contest, I cannot wait to see him tear Hillary apart... And you
Know he will... He's got nothing to lose and really doesn't have any political debt. Considering he's self funded...

Popping popcorn, pouring a cold one, this could be fun!

 

[mrblond]

Always be this guy.... Regardless of your politics...

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or this guy


Talk about stones

 

[Stomper]

That guy is SHOOTING DAGGERS from his eyes... AWESOME!

 

[misterarman]

I've become a single issue voter because I've been forced to do so. I never used to be that way, but when politicians come after my constitutional rights, that crosses a line that should never have been crossed. Until politicians stop coming after our guns, then my vote will be against them. If we want to get back to voting based on other issues, I'd love to see it, but drop the damn anti-gun B.S. Damn I hate having to vote on just one issue - but if we concede on this one thing, we won't have a way left to stand up to this craphole of a government.

EXACTLY

 

[misterarman]

Bottom line, I believe is a vote for hitlery is a vote against your guns.
To not vote is a vote for her.
To vote third party is a vote for her.
Whether you think it counts or not you have to VOTE.

 

[etrain16]

Bottom line, I believe is a vote for hitlery is a vote against your guns.
To not vote is a vote for her.
To vote third party is a vote for her.
Whether you think it counts or not you have to VOTE.

I would add one more thing to your list - whether or not you like the candidate running against Hillary, if you care about your guns, you need to cast your vote for that person.

I've been a Cruz supporter since he got into the race. I think it's highly unlikely he will be the nominee. And, I think it's somewhat unlikely that Trump will be the nominee. If it goes to a brokered convention, the Republicans will put up someone other than those two. And as much as I dislike pretty much all of them right now - any of them are better than a Hillary presidency.

 

[misterarman]

I would add one more thing to your list - whether or not you like the candidate running against Hillary, if you care about your guns, you need to cast your vote for that person.

I've been a Cruz supporter since he got into the race. I think it's highly unlikely he will be the nominee. And, I think it's somewhat unlikely that Trump will be the nominee. If it goes to a brokered convention, the Republicans will put up someone other than those two. And as much as I dislike pretty much all of them right now - any of them are better than a Hillary presidency.

A brokered convention, more proof our vote doesn't count.
But our vote is our voice and we need to be heard.
Like Trump or not there is no doubt he is the voice for a lot of people saying they are tired of a broken political system and he has gotten huge numbers of people fired up and involved.
As a gun owner and 2a supporter there is no choice but to vote for the Republican or anti-hitlery, who ever it may be.
If it is Trump I really think he is smart enough to surround himself with really smart qualified people who I think will really make a huge impact for us if they are allowed to do their job and not just carry out policy for their financial benefactors.

 

[etrain16]

A brokered convention, more proof our vote doesn't count.
But our vote is our voice and we need to be heard.
Like Trump or not there is no doubt he is the voice for a lot of people saying they are tired of a broken political system and he has gotten huge numbers of people fired up and involved.
As a gun owner and 2a supporter there is no choice but to vote for the Republican or anti-hitlery, who ever it may be.
If it is Trump I really think he is smart enough to surround himself with really smart qualified people who I think will really make a huge impact for us if they are allowed to do their job and not just carry out policy for their financial benefactors.

I think my biggest concern with Trump, aside from the fact that I just don't like him, is that presently he only represents at best about 1/3 of all Republican voters. Many R's have stated they simply will refuse to vote for the man if he becomes the nominee. If that's the case, he can't beat Hillary, and that scares me even more than a Trump presidency.

My position is this - Hillary must lose. If that means I have to vote for Trump, so be it. If someone else is brokered in, then so be it, even if it's a moron like Christy or Bush. Either way, my position is anyone but Hillary at this point (and that's of course assuming that Sanders has no chance, so I'm not worried about him). Hillary has promised to go after our guns, just like her waste of space husband did. She cannot be allowed to continue that legacy.

 

[slimmer13]

If T can convince me that he's not in it running interference for Hillary, I'll hold my nose and vote for him but all indicators say otherwise at this point. Not playing otherwise and I'll vote libertarian.

 

[nammac]

I think my biggest concern with Trump, aside from the fact that I just don't like him, is that presently he only represents at best about 1/3 of all Republican voters. Many R's have stated they simply will refuse to vote for the man if he becomes the nominee. If that's the case, he can't beat Hillary, and that scares me even more than a Trump presidency.

My position is this - Hillary must lose. If that means I have to vote for Trump, so be it. If someone else is brokered in, then so be it, even if it's a moron like Christy or Bush. Either way, my position is anyone but Hillary at this point (and that's of course assuming that Sanders has no chance, so I'm not worried about him). Hillary has promised to go after our guns, just like her waste of space husband did. She cannot be allowed to continue that legacy.

You've hit upon a critical fact, the established Republican Party has publicly made statements that they will refuse to support Trump... So how does he win?

Don't really see a way, because the republicans will cut their nose off to spite their face...

So I guess the Republician Party establishment will be supporting Hillary...

 

[misterarman]

You've hit upon a critical fact, the established Republican Party has publicly made statements that they will refuse to support Trump... So how does he win?

Don't really see a way, because the republicans will cut their nose off to spite their face...

So I guess the Republician Party establishment will be supporting Hillary...

As I see it this will be the Republican party's last hurrah.
If they do an end around and put in who they want instead of the leading vote getter the party will splinter and hitlery will win.
Take away the voice of the people and people will be mad.
Who knows maybe this will start the revolution.
Or start a new party.
Or who knows.......
But change is coming.
How much has the Republican congress stood up for us in the last 3 plus years?
Just bend over and don't rock the boat and continue to be a career do nothing politician.

 

[Dave Workman]

Hillary hits Hartford and talks guns; CCW a 'cash cow' in Okla.

Hillary Rodham Clinton was in Hartford yesterday carrying her gun control message to a receptive audience as the Connecticut primary looms next Tuesday, warning political activists that they "need to keep gun control at the top of their list," according to the Hartford Courant.


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[nammac]

Wish the Republican Party would take up the defeat Hillary mantra... Rather than derail Donald mantra...

How messed up has the politics of our once great nation become???

Worse than that, how messed up is the populace in wanting to surrender their rights to the government...

Trading freedom and liberty for the empty and impractical promise of protection and provision...

Heaven help us.....

 

[Libertas7]

Voting for Hillary is like voting to drive off a cliff at 90 MPH.

And there's only two options that have a chance at beating her: Driving off a cliff at 50 MPH or driving into a tree at 90.

So, since I don't like any of those options I guess I'll just have to learn to live with being called a Hillary supporter for not voting for any of those?

And another thing, Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. Dwell on that for a while.

 

[misterarman]

Voting for Hillary is like voting to drive off a cliff at 90 MPH.

And there's only two options that have a chance at beating her: Driving off a cliff at 50 MPH or driving into a tree at 90.

So, since I don't like any of those options I guess I'll just have to learn to live with being called a Hillary supporter for not voting for any of those?

And another thing, Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. Dwell on that for a while.

I will vote for less evil vs. More evil any day of the week. Especially with more evil my guns will be more gone. I mean my gun

 

[Sgt Nambu]

EH!!! She's a one trick pony! Or......something!

 

[PaulB47]

a vote for Hillary IS a vote against gun rights.

I'm not convinced.

Certainly, if you believe politician rhetoric (a big if) the D's and especially Hitlary sound worse than the Rs do for RKBA at least; however that is only talking about their desires. What they desire and what they actually accomplish are two far different things, so different that RKBA can actually improve with a D in office.

Want to put gun owners to sleep? Elect an R president. What sorts of gun control laws were signed by the likes of Ronald Reagan, GHW Bush, and so forth?

Want to arm the country and sell a lot of guns? Elect a D president. How badly has Obama set us back? Not at all that I can tell.

There is also the matter of Revolution. If we are going to have one, the earlier the better. The more violent the provocations setting it off, the better. This argues for someone like Hitlary, rather than against. Sometimes going toward socialism at 100mph is better than 50mph.

I don't think it is so cut and dried, that Hitlary is a vote against gun rights - in the long run.

Anyway this is academic for me, as I'm not voting. Let the festivities commence.

 

[etrain16]

I'm not convinced.

Certainly, if you believe politician rhetoric (a big if) the D's and especially Hitlary sound worse than the Rs do for RKBA at least; however that is only talking about their desires. What they desire and what they actually accomplish are two far different things, so different that RKBA can actually improve with a D in office.

Want to put gun owners to sleep? Elect an R president. What sorts of gun control laws were signed by the likes of Ronald Reagan, GHW Bush, and so forth?

Want to arm the country and sell a lot of guns? Elect a D president. How badly has Obama set us back? Not at all that I can tell.

There is also the matter of Revolution. If we are going to have one, the earlier the better. The more violent the provocations setting it off, the better. This argues for someone like Hitlary, rather than against. Sometimes going toward socialism at 100mph is better than 50mph.

I don't think it is so cut and dried, that Hitlary is a vote against gun rights - in the long run.

Anyway this is academic for me, as I'm not voting. Let the festivities commence.

I see it differently in a couple of ways. First, yes, having an anti-gun D in office has certainly helped spike gun and ammo sales. But has that created more new pro-gun voters? I'm not so certain. I expected to see more people come out against the D's this time around and I'm just not seeing that come through.

In my opinion, Obama didn't get the gun control he wanted because he waited too long to go after it. He had carte blanche his first term - full control over the house and senate, but he took up other issues, such as healthcare, instead. Once Sandy Hook happened, it was too late for him, his full control option was gone and congress was able to hold him at bay. If Hillary is elected, we don't know what the congressional makeup will be. What if she gets the win AND the house AND the senate? Can you honestly tell me she won't go after our guns as hard as she can??? And don't forget, the next President is going to choose a Supreme Court nominee - any guesses whether that will be a pro-gun or anti-gun pick?? And that pick is going to impact judicial decisions on things like the 2nd amendment for decades to come.

No, Hillary winning has no upsides to gun owners. Obama messed up, Hillary won't make that same mistake. She wants our guns, she is not shy about that fact. She needs to be blocked from winning this election.

I already know you won't vote, so it's a waste of breath to try an convince you otherwise. That said, I think your reasoning about Hillary being good for gun owners, is way, way, way off. She is our enemy, nothing more.

 

[etrain16]

Voting for Hillary is like voting to drive off a cliff at 90 MPH.

And there's only two options that have a chance at beating her: Driving off a cliff at 50 MPH or driving into a tree at 90.

So, since I don't like any of those options I guess I'll just have to learn to live with being called a Hillary supporter for not voting for any of those?

And another thing, Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. Dwell on that for a while.

And doing nothing at all in the face of evil is somehow doing good??? Dwell on that for a while.

Sorry, but I don't see any good that comes out of sitting home and doing nothing. We have a chance to participate, to effect the outcome. Regardless of the outcome, you are still going to be affected by the choice that's made. Why not at least try to swing it to the lesser of two evils rather than just sit by and let evil do whatever it wants?

There are people in this world that are willing to risk their lives just for the opportunity to cast a vote. It amazes me how easily some folks toss away one of the most precious rights we have in this country simply because they can't have their 'perfect' candidate.