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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by coctailer, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    This is a product I am hoping to bring to market very soon.

    Its called the ASP after the small venomous snake from the Nile region. It is a suppressed 10/22 barrel that you can install on your factory 10/22 or X-Ring.

    In testing, it seems about as quiet as the integral barrel that Tactical Solutions and Gemtech are producing. I need to get a sound meter to tell exactly where it compares.
    Some ammo was quieter, some slightly louder.

    I am building these so that the price will be far under the competition.

    The flash hider unscrews to reveal the monolithic baffle stack.
    I'll have technical details when I get closer to market.

    Is this something you guys would be interested in buying?
    I'm hoping to get the price down to $399.
     
  2. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    H-E-double hockey stick, to the Yeah!!!!

    SF-
     
  3. Gendaito

    Gendaito PDX Member

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    why does it need a flash hider?

    What's the OD? Standard .920 bull barrel diameter?
     
  4. Will

    Will Everett Active Member

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    Impressive! $399 seems like a fair price for something there's nothing like. Look forward to the tech details
     
  5. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    The flash hider is mainly cosmetic. It makes it look different than everyone else also.
    It is milled out of same bar stock. It's not added on to it.

    Standard bull barrel OD.
     
  6. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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  7. toolfan

    toolfan North Portland Member

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    Is that a class III item, or does the fact that it's integral to the barrel preclude the need for a tax stamp?
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    It is a Class III item just like buying a silencer by itself.
     
  9. toolfan

    toolfan North Portland Member

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    :( That's what I thought.

    Looks like a nice product :thumbup:
    I'd be more inclined to go with a screw on unit, if I ever go that route.
     
  10. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Ya, screw-ons are a lot more versatile since you can put them on several different guns.

    The main draw I am gong for is the 10/22 fan that doesn't want to SBR his rifle to get decent suppression.

    The barrel is over 16" so there is only one tax to pay.
     
  11. zul

    zul PDX Member

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    So how does this work? The barrel itself acts as the supressor... so is the barrel the part that needs a stamp? Is the barrel pressed into the receiver or screwed? Seems very interesting!
     
  12. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    That's awesome...
     
  13. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    Sweet, Good luck buddy! :thumbup:
     
  14. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    Ya, the barrel itself is the NFA item.
    10/22 barrels are really easy to change.

    One screw to take the action out of the stock and 2 screws that hold the barrel in.
    The barrel is really tight, so a touch of sandpaper will make it easier to install.
     
  15. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Can other integrally suppressed barrels come apart for cleaning as easy as yours seems to?
     
  16. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I think they all come apart the same way. The flash hider (it seems) will make it easier if the baffles get all gummy.

    I guess you could stick a screwdriver through the slots if it was really gummed up. (I wouldn't recommend it though. The finish would get buggered)

    With the competition, you would need to send it in for repair if it got really stuck.

    I'm not an expert on cleaning silencers (I never clean mine) so I am open to any criticism or advise on my statements.
     
  17. BlvdKing

    BlvdKing Almost Boring Member

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    I may have found my first suppressor! Put me on the list when you figure everything out
     
  18. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm. fascinating.

    One question, if this is required to be federally reported/registered, it seems it would be a legal "silerncer" according to Washington State's stupid law that says we can OWN them but not USE them.... or, has this been changed? I've heard that changing it was under consideration.......
     
  19. roguebowhunter

    roguebowhunter medford Member

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    interesing .. wife may like this on her 10/22 (i'm assumin i'd have to buy the bull barrel stock or is this larger than the bull) sorry if ya already answered that.. Don
     
  20. JC Weaponry

    JC Weaponry Newberg, OR Member

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    As you can see in the photos, he used the Factory Stock that has been sanded out for the larger .920 Diameter BBL. You do not have to purchase another stock if you do not want to.



    This is by all definitions a Silencer no matter how you look at it. He is an 07.02 Manufacturer and Legally Registers all of his Silencers for sale, where a customer would obtain them Legally on a Form 4 Directly in WA state, or it would be transferred out on a Form 3 to another dealer in Oregon or Idaho if the Customer resided in those states.

    WA state has not changed any rulings yet, so it still against state law to use them in state, but Ownership is still 100% LEGAL. Use is permitted in other states with zero problems. Buy now and be ready for when the statute is passed allowing USE. The rush to purchase will flood dealers when the time comes.