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Help with my AR build

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Roymil666, Nov 19, 2013.

  1. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    Hey guys, just looking for some input from other like minded individuals on my rifle build. I do have a complete rifle as of now, it started as a CMMG M4LE (16" barrel, carbine length gas system). I've made minor changes to rifle, such as a low profile gas block to accommodate a longer rail, new stock, mostly cosmetic. I'm looking to do some interior work, mainly to reduce felt recoil (buffer, spring, possibly a bcg, muzzlebrake). Looking for some input from experienced builders, shooters, and operators; any input is appreciated.
     
  2. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you're off to a good start with your rifle...so what's your question?
     
  3. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Usually the milspec stuff is all you'll need. I only go about changing parts when I get failures. But, if you wanna throw away some money, you may try a hydraulic buffer. At ~$100 I think they are too rich for my blood.

    I am a stickler with triggers so I always install a Geissele.
     
  4. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    Well I'm looking into different buffers and not sure where to go with it, I believe mine is just a standard one but I'm wondering if an h2 or h3 will help with felt recoil while still staying reliable even with cheaper brass ammo (pmc, American eagle, etc.). I'm going to purchase a heavy duty buffer spring to go along with it. Also I'm curious as to opinions on different brakes.
     
  5. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I would throw a brake/comp on your barrel first. The Surefires, Troy, etc all work great.
     
  6. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    @ Civilian75 I believe all my internals are milspec still (zero malfunctions), but I'm looking to get less felt recoil and muzzle rise. Thanks.
     
  7. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    @Simon99 I've been looking at battlecomps, Rainer, and a few others. I don't like the look of the pronged brakes/hiders, so other variations are better.
     
  8. TwinStick

    TwinStick In the wind Active Member

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    Noveske Flaming Pig?
     
  9. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    Well the flaming pig is set up for an sbr, it does work decent on a 16" as well. The pros, it reduces felt recoil/muzzle rise, it helps with flash; cons, it's heavy!, very loud and causes some blow back.
     
  10. Mecanik

    Mecanik La Center Active Member

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    The heavier the buffer the better.
     
  11. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    But won't a buffer that is to heavy cause cycling issues?
     
  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    5.56 has recoil? :cool:

    Seriously, a good trigger and a Vortex or Phantom FS and maybe a 22 LR kit and lots of ammo and mags
     
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    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    This thread should have been called, " What I'm going to do with my AR Build".....
     
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  14. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    It's not about the amount of recoil, it's about reducing it. A good shooter understands that he is only as good as his weapon will perform.
    And I'm not completely inexperienced by any means, I'm not just going to take all opinions and run with them. I'm looking for a bunch of opinions so I can best make a decision for myself, therefore it's "help with my AR build".
     
  15. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    Basically I'm looking for tips on different muzzle devices, buffers, bcgs, etc. I appreciate any input, that being said lets keep it coming. Hopefully more specific with parts.
     
  16. Mecanik

    Mecanik La Center Active Member

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    No. Ive never seen it happen with several rifles so far. I'm sure there is a point in which it can but if that happens the barrel port can be opened up slightly.
    The main reason for making the carrier and buffer heavier is to slow down the opening of the bolt. That lowers the pressure in the barrel that allows the case to extract easier because the bullet is further down the barrel before the bolt opens. Most ar's are severly over gassed. That makes for positive extraction but it slams the buffer back and forth harder then it needs to be and puts a lot of stress on the buffer tube and extractor. slowing down this entire process is a good thing for everyone except the cyclic rate is reduced which is only a factor if your shooting full auto at the enemy. Most of us do not care about that in civilian use.
     
  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    If you want to try real recoil get a G3 clone. As a shooter of that and full house 12 GA shotties I don't get how reduced 5.56 recoil is an issue.. just learn how to shoot it
     
  18. Roymil666

    Roymil666 Canby, Oregon Member

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    So would an h or h2 buffer do the job? I've also heard of different mixtures being in the buffers with the sliding weights, such as tungsten powder. Any input on that?
    @blitzkrieg why do you insist on making it negative? There is a reason why military and spec ops use the best gear, regardless of how good they know how to shoot. The better your weapon performs the better you can perform. Lighter recoil on any weapon will help with maintaining a good sight picture while engaging a target, faster target acquisition is always a good thing.
     
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    Bxc53 Arlington Wa Member

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    I've only built a couple AR's but I'd think if it's cycling well, leave the buffer, spring and BCG alone. For felt recoil, try compensators (vs a flash hider) and maybe a cushioned stock pad like the magpul
     
  20. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

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    I use the H2 and a FA BCG. I wouldn't worry to much about the spring. If the gun starts to short cycle, there is usually another problem. Personally, I already think the design itself lends it to very low recoil. YMMV