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Help me Identify these Pistols

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by fredball, Jul 12, 2016.

  1. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Help me Identify these Pistols

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  2. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Belgium cranked out millions of pistols at the turn of the century, some were copies of extant guns and many were patent work-arounds. Often the pistols had no markings to prevent authorities from identifying the MFG.
     
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  3. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Bottom one is a French model 1892 revolver.

    Top one----Good question. If I were to take a GUESS, I would say it's an Adams.
    Maybe a Webley solid frame? For some reason it just looks British. I'm sure
    someone will be along with a positive ID shortly.

    Check them over closely for proof marks. The Europeans were nuts for proofmarks,
    they will be there somewhere.

    As erudne said--they could very well be Belgian. The Belgians would copy almost
    anything. If they are Belgian they will have some version of the E L G in a oval
    proofmark.
     
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  4. ejmpnu92

    ejmpnu92 Hillsboro, Or Active Member

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  5. Gaucho Gringo

    Gaucho Gringo Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    It may look like a Webley but if you notice the Webley has screws in the frame, this one has pins. Also has a stepdown in the lower frame under the cylinder. It is probably a Belgian or even Spanish knockoff. The second one looks to be a French model 1892 revolver.
     
  6. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Top one looks like a Tranter.
     
  7. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It does look like a Tranter. There are a few details on the ejector that don't quite look
    correct----but Tranter made a LOT of models and my references on old English revolvers
    are pretty limited.
    OP PM'ed me some pics---it's got "Double crown over U" German proofs on the frame and
    barrel. Other marks were too blurry to make out. English export to Germany?
    German made copy? Belgian copy exported to Germany?
     
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