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Health Care Bill

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Ragingpit, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. Ragingpit

    Ragingpit Rochester,WA Member

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    watcher West of Portland Member

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    Perhaps this should be in the "Off Topic" section.
     
  3. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    We have to hope nothing happens to a bad president because Biden and this moron woman would be worse if posible!
     
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    watcher West of Portland Member

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    I must admit that I find it difficult to like Pelosi.
    I also feel the Boemer (sp?) is an oily creep and add to the list of runners-up Mitchell, Dodd, Feinstein, etc etc.
     
  5. Ragingpit

    Ragingpit Rochester,WA Member

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    What happened to the transparency the current administration promised?
     
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    watcher West of Portland Member

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    It died alongside the cynical bi-partisanship.

    If you know that someone is going to dig a pit-trap, with poisoned spikes in it, for you to fall into do you tell them exactly where you intend to walk?

    This is not new or restricted to the "current administration". When personal politics overcomes a politicians duty to country the whole system fails because of a lack of trust. Transparency in front of a friend is laudable, in front of an adversary it is death.
     
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    Ragingpit Rochester,WA Member

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    I'm kinda new to politics and the lies....
     
  8. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Good points, well said.

    I feel the bill is about as good as we are going to get given the fact that ever major power player in this country is a sacred cow. This bill won't stop insurance companies from ripping us off, or make providers do it for less, inspire any competition in the system, or even allow drug stores to dispense antibiotics. It won't do much to lower any costs and it relies on corporations to live up the the deals they made with the President before this bill even started. Our health care system is so broke though, that even this terrible reform is better than nothing, so I'm backing it. And even if your pleased with our system you can't be pleased with the costs of it and the insurance outfits are talking huge increases right now as if the 8% per year increases during a depression aren't enough?

    The rest of the developed world manages to provide healh care for everyone for about half the costs we do here and that includes our uninsureds (2.5 trillion bucks divided by 300 million people)! In short, our system is not even half as efficient as the one in France. However to actually fix it and make itcost only 1.5 times what the rest of the world pays you would have to take out a lot of these sacred cows, like the healh care insurance industry that has thrown about 60 million bucks at just the senate in the last year. Of course this buy a senator effort all comes out of the 20% of your premiums they use for 'overhead'. They use an additional 6% for actually doing the work of insurance. The other 74% they do pay to providers, but they make them jump through many hoops wasting another 5% in that paper chase.