He shot someone because he was 'disrespected?' Huh?!

[jdubl]

Respect: Respect - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Two of the definitions seem to apply to the subject at hand:

So do you want me to pay attention to you, or think highly of you?

Respect is earned. This is just another common misuse of a word by someone with poor social skills, they same way "honor" used to be misused. You cannot offend someone's honor. Honor is how you treat other people. Ego is how you expect others to treat you. Your ego was offended, not your honor. Get over yourself.

I feel "respect is earned" is a misused phrase. Do we start of with a complete lack of respect for others? Is it transactional? You scratch my back, i scratch yours? Lets just all follow the golden rule and call it good!

On topic.....i would imagine a simple comment started it. Isn't that ususally how escalation of this manner occurs?

"I'll do this!"
"Oh yeah? Well i'll do this"
"Really? Well you wanna talk to my loud friend?"
"You're too punk to pull that"
"Oh yeah?"
"Ha, a boys gonna shoot a man, right...."
Blam!

How he got a gun, where he got a gun, all that isn't as worrying to me as what was in his head that made it ok to shoot someone over words. Like Dave brought up, how do you identify and prepare for these types of risk? Get on a bus with the wrong group of people and they may feel your slight bump as you got on was enough to require escalation to violence. I'd think in this case, that he just hadn't gotten caught yet. Without a gun being pointed at them first, a sane person doesn't do this type of thing, i doubt this is the first time this guy has done something dangerous or criminal.

 

[dmancornell]

What's the big deal? Cops assault people all the time for "contempt of cop".

 

[Flopsweat]

I feel "respect is earned" is a misused phrase. Do we start of with a complete lack of respect for others? Is it transactional? You scratch my back, i scratch yours? Lets just all follow the golden rule and call it good!
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With all due respect, that's what the word means - I've provided the definition. Maybe you're thinking of decency or common courtesy (not so common these days). I'll treat anyone decently by default - that's how I was raised. I've got to know something about a person before I look up to them or hold them in high regard. By then, they've earned it.

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Like Dave brought up, how do you identify and prepare for these types of risk? Get on a bus with the wrong group of people and they may feel your slight bump as you got on was enough to require escalation to violence. I'd think in this case, that he just hadn't gotten caught yet. Without a gun being pointed at them first, a sane person doesn't do this type of thing, i doubt this is the first time this guy has done something dangerous or criminal.

For me, be decent with people and practice situational awareness. For society in general, I don't know. <sigh> I really just don't know.

 

[Akathepriest]

Too bad, looked like a nice kid. I certainly hope it was more stressors than just being disrespected.

 

[Spray-n-pray]

The kid is 5'2" and 110 pounds..... I wonder how he'll feel about getting gang-"disrespected" in prison.

 

[jdubl]

I agree with you 100% flopsweat. To simplify things, i've always thought of the courtesy and common decency you mention as a basis for respect (the usage of the word as a verb seems to indicate its more of an umbrella descriptor for anything from common decency to honoring someone you deem worthy of your utmost respect). Any less than that, and you either feel disrespectful or act disrespectful and rude towards the person. I think we're on the same page, pardon my innaccurate use of our language.

 

[michaels]

But you cannot defend their actions, either, through sarcasm.

Umm, being horrified that people are comfortable talking about sterilization and termination of black people

Does not mean that I am defending the senseless shooting of anyone.

By anyone.

 

[Jammer Six]

You can't identify a banger that has no history, either.

Sterilization is a modern convenience. It is not a solution, and only appeals to fools. When someone mentions race, it's racist fools. Both are insignificant, overall. (They know that, and that's where a lot of racist anger comes from.)

Sterilization does not stop someone from picking up another weapon and blowing more teenagers away.

 

[Kevatc]

The interesting thing is that so far, nobody has been able to come up with any criminal history on the suspect. Zip.

Perhaps no official history but I'd be willing to bet he was no angel and just had not been caught yet.

 

[Grunwald]

Too many kids have nobody to raise them. They have mommas that are strung out and seed spreading dads that are worthless and either in prison or deserve it.
Voluntary sterilization for $$ might be worth debating.

It is not worth debating at all. It is however worth offering.

 

[Grunwald]

The person with the biggest weapon will always gain the most respect.

That was hilarious.
Did he say niggasaki at the end?

 

[Jammer Six]

It is not worth debating at all. It is however worth offering.

I don't want to fund someone's sex life. You want to pay for someone's food, shelter, medical care and sex?

Some people amaze me.

 

[Grunwald]

I don't want to fund someone's sex life. You want to pay for someone's food, shelter, medical care and sex?

Some people amaze me.

Given the choice of paying for multiple offspring from some leach loser that will continue the cycle into another generation of leaches,.,.. yes I would pay to get them "fixed".


by the way, I have seen enough of your post to find it surprising that you would say that you don't want to pay for someone's food, shelter, medical care.

 

[Jammer Six]

If we blamed the child for the actions of the parents, we'd all be dead.

 

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If published reports about Joseph Cooley, the suspect in the murder of a 17-year-old Shorecrest High School student &#8211; who turned himself in Sunday night at the King County Jail &#8211; are correct, he pulled the trigger on the semiautomatic pistol he was evidently packing illegally, because "he believed he had been disrespected" by one of the people he shot.



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Of course you can. They do it all the time on TV and the video games and they just come back to life later anyway.

 

[madcratebuilder]

^LMAO!!!!!

I think i'm a little jaded, but this type of thing seems to confirm my thoughts that we have little to no consideration or respect for our fellow man, in this country at least. Escalation of violence like this is insane, and on the other side, i DO see people being openly disrespectful and self-centered on a daily basis (i'm sure i'm guilty of of it as well), with no one standing up to them (which i know i'm guilty of). I guess we're all afraid of being shot over words.

A couple of years ago, my brother got flagged over by a guy in our hometown, because he was probably driving like a complete jerk, but instead of telling my brother off for driving dangerously, he started cussing at him, and pulled a revolver on him. And this wasn't a young guy either, i believe he was in his late 50's at the time.

So...that was your brother....

 

[RVTECH]

Poor behavior recognizes neither social status or age for that matter. I deal with some people who are very wealthy, some old enough to be my parents and I have seen some of the worst behavior from them, ever, anywhere in my life. I have seen what appear to be mature adults break down into childlike temper tantrums. I have seen adults cry over the most trivial things. I have seen people become completely irrational and hysterical and require escort out of the building. We actually joke about an escape plan out of the building.......

 

[hermannr]

The kid is 5'2" and 110 pounds..... I wonder how he'll feel about getting gang-"disrespected" in prison.

The most vile, violent, and deadly person in our company when I was in Germany was a little pipsqueak like that. We called it "small man syndrome" or "Napoleon syndrome". The ego f a giant in a 12 year old's body. He went to jail for murder.

 

[Jammer Six]

Yup.

The worst, nastiest, stomp-you-pecker-shut beating I ever got was from a pimp that couldn't have weighed more than 100 pounds or stood taller than 5'-3".

100 pounds isn't much until it jumps up and comes down on your stomach.

 

[swoop]

Yup.

The worst, nastiest, stomp-you-pecker-shut beating I ever got was from a pimp that couldn't have weighed more than 100 pounds or stood taller than 5'-3".

100 pounds isn't much until it jumps up and comes down on your stomach.

Ok Jammer, let's have the rest of the story.