HB1240 - Can you Form1 - Trust anymore?

[dirtyd]

As the title states. Im assuming that UNLESS the trust owned the serial number prior to the enactment of HB1240 you cannot do a Form1 as a Trust any longer as that would be considered a transfer now? Withdrew my trust based form 1 the other day because I was worried it would be denied and reapplied as an individual.

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[ilikegunspdx]

Not really sure what you are asking but lots of form 1 amnesty rule gun trust applications from both WA and OR going through just fine but taking a long time. This includes WA approvals after hb1240 was passed.

I don't know how hb1240 affects sbrs or trusts so I can't help there unfortunately.

 

[dirtyd]

It doesnt directly affect them but if you buy a lower personally for example then submit a Form 1 as a trust that constitutes a transfer from your ownership to the trusts, as of HB1240 you essentially cannot transfer an AR style rifle what so ever so that is what I was concerned about.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

It doesnt directly affect them but if you buy a lower personally for example then submit a Form 1 as a trust that constitutes a transfer from your ownership to the trusts, as of HB1240 you essentially cannot transfer an AR style rifle what so ever so that is what I was concerned about.

Hmm sounds complicated with a lot of possible loopholes. For example they make muzzleloader uppers For ARs. Stripped lower for use to build a muzzleloader or other gun that does not violate hb1240. Not gonna get into the "but it's an AR part and all AR parts are illegal" debate here though. I have heard some FFLs transferring stripped lowers still I assume for the above examples but no clue.

 

[dirtyd]

Hmm sounds complicated with a lot of possible loopholes. For example they make muzzleloader uppers For ARs. Stripped lower for use to build a muzzleloader or other gun that does not violate hb1240. Not gonna get into the "but it's an AR part and all AR parts are illegal" debate here though. I have heard some FFLs transferring stripped lowers still I assume for the above examples but no clue.

Not sure, basically no website will sell me anything related to an AR any longer. I already have what I need. I think the individual Form 1 should be successful under the current circumstances.

 

[Vierings]

I am not a lawyer. I don't give legal advice.

The only time you have "needed proof" that a trust owned a firearm prior to completing a form 1 was for the brace ruling. The ATF and Washington state don't know when a trust took ownership of an item.