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Have you provided your insurance company a list of firearm serial numbers?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Joe Link, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I'd like to insure my collection, but to cover it I need to take out a separate policy. This particular policy is very affordable, covers fire/flood/earthquake/theft, they'll even replace them if I lost one somehow.

    The only caveat; they need a list of all the firearms being covered. I understand the reasoning, it just makes me a little nervous for some reason.

    Have you done this? Have you not done this for this reason?

    Edit: Just for reference, this is for a collection with a replacement value of $6,000+, so it's a little different than a standard policy.
     
  2. Douglasskid

    Douglasskid Moline, KS New Member

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    Try NRA. I do not believe that serial numbers are needed on their form.
     
  3. eldbillbo

    eldbillbo clackamas New world samurai and a redneck none the less Bronze Supporter

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    I am not recommending or endorsing this company but you may want to contact them as they give NRA discounts and when i spoke to the rep they said you can get (and i forgot the exact term) blanket coverage which is additional coverage and if i recall correctly i would not be required to give seraial numbers but would need to keep my on list should something happen the company was metlife you might want to verify this.
     
  4. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    Farmers covers me without a list, I keep a list for my own records. All they needed was an aproximate value.
     
  5. boarder4life81

    boarder4life81 Eugene, Oregon Active Member

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    It's none of the insurance companies business (what the serial numbers are) until you have to make a claim. I would keep shopping around. IMHO.
     
  6. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    I don't see the issue honestly.

    I suppose the worry is what would happen if a gun confiscation occurred, that the ins. co. could forward a list of guns to the .Gov?
    Other than that, who cares?

    The notion that gun confiscation could happen in this country in the remotely near-term is just ridiculous. It's a paranoid delusion, nothing more. The AWB in 1994 didn't even attempt prohibition of pre-ban magazines, much less a confiscation of arms. The notion that this country has gotten MORE friendly to the idea of gun control since 1994 is so counter-factual it's not even worth discussing.

    We need to be ever vigilant about our rights, and continue working to expand those rights. But playing chicken little doesn't help. It diverts time and resources and energy away from productive activity, like getting full-auto and SBRs approved for WA. and removing the mandatory handgun waiting period for non-CPL holders.
     
  7. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

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    Mine wanted a list with approximate values but did not need serial numbers. My assumption is that I will need to provide the serial numbers if I need to make a claim.
     
  8. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    On these policies that don't require serial numbers, do you have to give them the SNs if you file a claim? Or provide the police report with or without the serial numbers they recorded? I just wonder how that works. I'm sure they have some sort of safeguard against a guy claiming a transferrable m134 minigun (or barrett m82, blaser, etc you get the idea) along with his bersa and lorcin that got stolen.
     
  9. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    I now have Farmers, recently switched from State Farm. BOTH of these companies require serial numbers, make and model, and an approximate value. That is why I have not taken out a policy with either of them. None of their business as far as I am concerned. I have told both that I would be willing to provide pictures, serial numbers, and any other information they may need in case of theft or other damages. Neither are willing to do it up front with out the required information.
     
  10. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    keep in mind most home owners policys only cover less then $2000.00 I have a single rifle that would easily cover that. I am working on a rider on my homeowner to cover my little collection. And yes it will have serial numbers and photos and current values.

    Afterall they have to know the VIN numbers on your cars how is a firearm any different? of course you have the choice not to insure.
     
  11. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    True that.
     
  12. jonn5335

    jonn5335 Longview Active Member

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    Mine wanted make/model and est. values and proof of ownership (pictures) and a requirement of keeping them locked up
     
  13. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Our coverage (Country) covers $2,000 worth as part of the regular homeowners coverage.
    No serial numbers etc required. I've also got a rider policy for the guns I consider "high
    risk". These are the guns my wife and I take to competitions. Serial numbers, description
    and value declaration required for them. Currently around $8,000 worth, I update/change the
    list annually.
     
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  14. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    My Pru policy covers my guns fully, and didn't require anything on my part other than stating I had firearms, and a number of them, and approximate value.

    My insurance agent actually knows what I have pretty well, as we have gone shooting a few times. There was never any questions about serials.
     
  15. Torqk911

    Torqk911 Yacolt,Wa Member

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    I think some of it maybe with your agents. I have State Farm. I have complete details of my gun collection in my safe and another back up location. They are insured with providing no information other than I have them and how much coverage do I want for them. I am currently set at $9k and just re-did all my insurance info with switching boats/motorcycles cars and homes recently and raised the amount for my guns from $6k to $9k.
     
  16. Varmit

    Varmit Beaverton, OR Member

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    Of course when it comes time to get them replaced, what will the ins Co's position be then? Depreciated "replacement" value? If they are high value items, I would get a written appraisal on each item and store that in a safe deposit box. Some companies are infamous for giving about 50% of what the item cost you new. Or 1/2 the new price in today's market. Some good friends were robbed and their company gave them about 1/2 of what it cost them to replace everything. This was with plenty of coverage over the amount they were paid. And they did raise hell just to get that!
     
  17. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    Mine offers full replacement value. So as my agent said, that means my .308 gets replaced with the LE version it is, bull barrel, timney trigger, exact same scope, and second stock. No depreciated value bs.
     
  18. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I have good replacement coverage through my homeowner policy. Oregon Mutual (love that they are a local company) is the underwriter, and Isaac's Insurance (located in Tigard) has been my agent/broker for about 20 years now. Google up Isaac's Insurance and inquire about what you're looking for. No serials required, I just maintain a detailed database with photos if I ever need to make a claim.

    I had a Toyota Landcruiser get stolen by someone the (then) wife let test drive that we were trying to sell some years back, and it was a painless process to make a claim and get reimbursed... actually made $200 more than what I was asking for it... LOL!

    Hope that helps.