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Hatred + Government + Disarmed Civilians = Genocide

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by zeezee, Apr 23, 2010.

  1. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Decker My house Active Member

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    Frightening and good to make others aware of. Thank you.

    -d
     
  3. biggie24420

    biggie24420 Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that is messed up. You know.......I wonder how many of you would stand up for your rights and pay the ultimate price? How many of you legal gun owners would get your guns loaded and ready to join the "group" to start a revolution and get rid of the government that was trying take all your rights away and control you?
    I know I would have no choice but to join the "group" because I am a good human being and I could not live a life where a corrupt government tried to boss me around.
     
  4. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    The irrefutable fact is, no populations are immune to murder by their government, and the list goes way, way back...much further than this table shows. Nor should we expect America to be immune to such tyrany in the years to come. To think otherwise if foolish.

    Keith
     
  5. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    I hope the "It couldn't happen here" group is getting smaller. What I don't understand is that there are Jews in the anti camp.
     
  6. Buddymack

    Buddymack Cougar/Ariel Washington Member

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    I have often brought this up also in other ways, I wonder too how many would stand against a tyrannical Government one thing we don't see quite often is the subtlety ways these people move against us, you look at how the Tea Parties are vilified by the mainstream media and you get a stomach full of the nature of how many would consider us tyrants for not going along with extreme movements of our "new" Government, you quote Thomas Jefferson or Samuel Adams and you are called a radical?
    As many who are hidden are exposed as socialist you see nothing but sweeping under the carpet instead of shock, why? because they know they want and are associated with these Socialist they could care less about Americas founding rights or the fathers that authored any of our freedoms, there ideas of freedom of speech is if you disagree with them you are practicing hate speech.
    Never have I seen an America like this in my as of today 47 years! yet we were warned when the Clinton administration wiped out a family with extreme prejudiced in Waco Texas ...yes I would agree that the branch Davidians were nutty in my opinion but they murdered little children in the name of vengeance for anyone that dared stand against the almighty BATF, the tanks that rammed thru the walls literally sprayed the inside of the building with Napalm the bodies were horrific, yet not only was the admin never held responsible we now have whom as our Secretary of State?
    Anyone with common sense who follows the stories of the Holocaust in Germany should see history repeating itself.
    To that I say may God have mercy on us and that good men are willing to stand in that hour unblinded and brave.
     
  7. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    During our war for freedom from england only 3% of the population was actively fighting. I'm not sure of our current population today but would imagine 3% to be double if not triple our current armed forces. The one factor that has not come into play yet is a leader? A true leader who will lead us in restoring the constitution and our country. I pray that person will appear when we need them most.
    God Bless America.
     
  8. toobigtofail

    toobigtofail PDX Member

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    The purpose for Americans to have Ar-15s and AK-47s is so that the government fears its citizenry. Of course we fear our own government -- they can jail us at any time, for any reason, without representation by merely labeling us an "enemy combatant". Having powerful weapons prevents them from making the decision to try to disarm us lightly. I absolutely guarantee you that a UK or Australian style disarmament would not work here.
     
  9. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Yeah, and now the UK is setting up laws against what type of knife you can carry (if one at all!) since their population has decided to arm and defend themselves with . . . Anything and everything when it comes to blades. I believe many Australians are still armed with firearms, they just don't let their government know.
     
  10. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Crazy chart, for example in the reasons for the deaths starvation is not listed at all, and that really was the largest contributing factor based on the large death figures. Also, one wonders how may Chinese could actually have afforded to buy guns, maybe .001%?And Guatemala, how many were killed by guns bought for the junta by US tax dollars?
     
  11. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    As powerful as this chart may be it doesn't really account for all the misery caused by gun control and more important govt control.
    Our country has involved itself in so many conflicts for many different reasons. But the extreme genocide that has been going on in Africa is just as bad as what nazi germany did. Only they don't care about expanding, they just want to kill or rape everyone they can in their own country.

    And as much as I want to hate the pirates taking hostages, they are not the problem.
    Not only are they fighting the people illegally fishing their waters, but also the oil rich northern africa. Tons of oil has been filtered out of africa and the oil companies pay off the govt to keep their mouths shut and then it's the civilians that suffer.
    It will happen here sooner or later, our govt and rich corporations are still getting filthy rich off from being in control while were suffering. The only difference is other countries have outside people stealing from them, and our own govt is doing it to us.
     
  12. Buddymack

    Buddymack Cougar/Ariel Washington Member

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    I believe all you have to do is look towards California to know how they disarm us who would own guns and ammunition, just keep infringing rights acidly and slowly subtly and constantly, keep putting people in office one after the other "Barbara Boxer types" and "Pelosi" whom have been quoted as being for gun control, I would like to lay a bet if the hearts were exposed both here in Washington and Oregon you would find they all are in agreement.
    This way you just give up by the water torture affect of constant slow removal of rights, just jump through this hoop to get your ammo just jump through this hoop to get your gun ...next thing you know the Gunbrokers and the like will say ..WILL NOT SHIP TO WASHINGTON...
    WILL NOT SHIP TO OREGON....then the little skeavy schemers will just laugh out the other side of their mouths with socialist delight...
    all you have to do to see were they are going with this is try to go fishing here, then go fishing somewhere like Florida....you will see your freedoms are very slowly and constantly being challenged by the very leaders one would hope to preserve such freedoms ...Brian Baird, Christine Gregoire etc etc same agenda!
     
  13. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Hummm, pro or anti gun rights people?
     
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    The difficulty is that you don't often get a defining moment where everyone can say "Ah, this is it! Now it's clear that we must fight!" The slow erosion is very effective at keeping the opposition from becoming unified. Look at how divided we are now; some people insist this is the time for action, while others insist that things simply haven't gone that far. And each side belittles the other.

    The government has to do something so invasive and outrageous that it jolts the majority of gun owners before they'll have an real problem on their hands. Socialist "visionaries" with long-range plans know better than to spook the herd like this. They take a little liberty, let the people shake their fist for a while, let things calm down, and then take a little more.
     
  15. Buddymack

    Buddymack Cougar/Ariel Washington Member

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    I agree people don't see things quite often many are written off as paranoid or something to that level, I imagine in the founding of America there were people who would not fight and went along with the status quo of England, can you just take yourself there ? I can everytime I run into a loyalist of this so called administration.
     
  16. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    This 'so called administration' was duly elected by all laws and rules in accordance for such a proceedure as set down in the constitution of the US. I, and many others, think they have a done a pretty good job of preventing this country from having a major, lengthy depression, passing useful health care reform, getting a nuclear weapons agreement, and now taking on wall street. While the Repubs did not get a shot at solving these problems, I have a pretty good idea that they would have done no more being in power than they have done being out of power, in short not a darn thing. While our system is not the best I hear no cries for reconstruction of our system, just for the changing of personalites from ones you don't like, to ones that you do like. Based on this I'd have to say that you are not revolutionaries by any token at all, just the worst of all possible bad losers.
     
  17. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Puke! Sorry, we agree on many aspects of freedom but are on opposite poles when it comes to politics. I hate this crooked administration and pray daily that we can recover once they are done f'n things up. Just my opinion.
     
  18. Blitzkrieg

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    Actually it's illegal already in Britain to carry anything that resembles a weapon, and to even defend yourself in your own home with one

    The new bans are for possession even in your home of "fighting style" knives, swords, etc

    This, as increasing hordes of third world violent invaders run amok in the streets and homes of the former "Great" Britain, murdering, raping and robbing with weapons, from knives to pipes to guns

    http://thefallenlist.blogspot.com/
     
  19. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    I would like to state for the record that I am not among your group of "many others".
     
  20. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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