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Has anyone shot the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Gen 2?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Hedrin, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Hedrin

    Hedrin Portland area Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I am wondering if anyone here has had experience with the Gen 2. All the older threads I saw here seemed like they were probably with Gen 1.

    A small, foldable, pistol caliber carbine is attractive. However, most of the anecdotal evidence for Kel-Tec isn't good. I'd love to hear from someone who has actually had one in their hands.
     
  2. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I noted that two people were shooting the gen2 at the tillamook clean up recently and I have one. I do know that @mgleason00 was dead on with shots on the dueling tree at the same time as pelting me in the head with brass :)

    I like mine. Cycling the bolt is the only awkward part because the charging handle is directly beneath the stock. I have not quite figured out how to do that quickly. Takedown is easy and I like that I am 100% certain the gun is safe when folded in half.

    If you plan to come to the May Tillamook clean up I can bring mine and let you try it out.
     
  3. Hedrin

    Hedrin Portland area Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Probably won't be there. As I age, my legs become more and more of a problem and I poop out pretty easily. Not sure I'd be much help even if I did come.

    When the zombie apocalypse comes, I'm certainly not outrunning anyone. So I need a gun to wing my neighbors so I can get away. :D
     
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  4. bolus

    bolus Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    You can drive right to the top and we need people to help with check in, so you can sit at the table and hand out signature forms. Or flip burgers or help with the prize drawing.

    Plus, you are more than welcome to just come for the target shooting as well. we had a few people with bad backs who just hung out at the tables or picked up steel casings with the magnet tools right around the parking location. We were glad to have the company

    The shooting line was made up of a line of tables and you can pull a chair right up and shoot while seated.

    So dont feel that you need to contribute a ton to come shooting with us.
     
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  5. H2O MAN

    H2O MAN Georgia - USA Well-Known Member

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    I did quite a bit of research on the Gen II before buying one, a Glock 17 version. I replaced the plastic trigger with an improved aluminum trigger, and I installed Kel-Tec's heavy bolt. I also added a few things.

    Results:
    This is my favorite little carbine to shoot. It's accurate & cheap to feed.


    S2K-RDS.1.JPG
     
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  6. ThemGunsThough

    ThemGunsThough RIP City! Well-Known Member

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    A cousin had bought one and I shot and loved it so much that I put on a ring on it and bought one for myself last weekend. It shoots accurate enough out of the box but was a little uncomfortable to shoot. A tube cover from tacticool products solved that for relatively cheap.
     
  7. gastronome

    gastronome Aloha Active Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Would you mind telling us a little more about your red dot mount? There's a G23 model at a local shop that has my attention, but not sure if I want to pay MSRP.
     
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  8. H2O MAN

    H2O MAN Georgia - USA Well-Known Member

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    I used a KAC-25789 with a High Aimpoint spacer for the Micro. It's mounted to a 5 rail MOE accessory rail.
    I hand filed material off the tube side of the KAC mount & High riser... I also used 1/8" spacers between the accessory rail & hand guard to achieve the proper clearance.

    S2K-RDS.JPG

    Days after I finished my creation, Midwest Industries released their mount that pivots :rolleyes:

     
  9. gastronome

    gastronome Aloha Active Member 2015 Volunteer

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    Your mount looks great and you have the satisfaction of engineering that yourself.

    Thanks for the link and video, I'll be buying one if I ever pick up a Gen 2.
     
  10. Bello425

    Bello425 Vancouver Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Took mine to one of the clean and shoots in Yacolt burn area, and made a mess of the clay targets we brought. It was accurate, lite weight, and enjoyable to shoot. The only thing I can complain about is the length of time I had to spend on reloading the 33rd mags. :D:)
     
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  11. Hedrin

    Hedrin Portland area Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Gen 1 yes, Gen 2 no. I've considered selling my Gen 1 in .40SW to move to the Gen 2, partially because the Gen 2 allows you to extend the stock just a bit to add some LOP adjustment, which I can't do on the Gen 1 - I'd like just a bit more LOP. Cool little guns though.
     
  13. H2O MAN

    H2O MAN Georgia - USA Well-Known Member

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    A recoil pad from ATI may give you the added LOP you seek.

    I have extended the butt stock on my Gen II all the way, and I added a recoil pad, but I also have arms like Clyde
     
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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'll have to check that out, thanks :)
     
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  15. H2O MAN

    H2O MAN Georgia - USA Well-Known Member

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    I sold my black S2K, and I'll upgrade my Nickel Boron with black S2K later this year.
    As for the red dot sight; after trying a few different arrangements, the best set up for me is an EOTech with the factory 7mm trow lever riser positioned as far forward as possible. The rifle doesn't fold completely in half, but it folds enough for my needs. Here is a picture of the black one before I sold it.

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    Here is a shot of the Nickel Boron S2K that I'll be upgrading.

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