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Haha wow this dude is extremely loony. This reads like my grandfather's e-mail forwards!

Threat Forces
National
  • Democratic Socialist of America
  • Black Lives Matter
  • Antifa
  • Freedom Road Socialist Organization
  • Liberation Road
  • Communist Party USA
  • Open Society Institute
  • Sunrise Movement
  • National Lawyers Guild
  • John Brown Gun Club
  • Redneck Revolt
  • 350.Org
  • Youth Liberation Front
  • NFAC
  • Nation of Islam
  • CAIR
  • Our Revolution
The DSA? Sunrise Movement? What? This is some red-baiting nonsense. I cannot believe anyone here is deluding themselves that this is apolitical. The vast majority of murders for partisan reasons in the US are committed by far-right extremists. This is objective fact.
 
Haha wow this dude is extremely loony. This reads like my grandfather's e-mail forwards!
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The DSA? Sunrise Movement? What? This is some red-baiting nonsense. I cannot believe anyone here is deluding themselves that this is apolitical. The vast majority of murders for partisan reasons in the US are committed by far-right extremists. This is objective fact.


You could be right - it's possible that more murders are committed by far-right extremists; I have no idea, and it is of no importance in the current struggle for power in the USA. What is important is that the groups listed are subversive, treasonous, anti-America, anti-freedom, anti-capitalist, anti-Constitution groups, with the goal of destroying the USA as we know it; and are close to completing their goal. That is also objective fact. Why is it important? Because the groups listed want to change the USA into a socialist/communist nation - the type of nation that millions of people risk their lives fleeing from every year. People from around the world risk their lives and the lives of their families to get inside the USA where they are free to work hard, succeed, and get to keep much of what they earn. People around the world understand that if you live in the USA you have won the lottery of life because of the freedom and opportunity we have here.

Your grandfather sounds like a very smart man. Someday, hopefully before it is too late, you will understand. You have until November 3, 2020 to "get it". After that, it may be too late.

;)
 
Haha wow this dude is extremely loony. This reads like my grandfather's e-mail forwards!

Threat Forces
National
  • Democratic Socialist of America
  • Black Lives Matter
  • Antifa
  • Freedom Road Socialist Organization
  • Liberation Road
  • Communist Party USA
  • Open Society Institute
  • Sunrise Movement
  • National Lawyers Guild
  • John Brown Gun Club
  • Redneck Revolt
  • 350.Org
  • Youth Liberation Front
  • NFAC
  • Nation of Islam
  • CAIR
  • Our Revolution
The DSA? Sunrise Movement? What? This is some red-baiting nonsense. I cannot believe anyone here is deluding themselves that this is apolitical. The vast majority of murders for partisan reasons in the US are committed by far-right extremists. This is objective fact.
Getting out the popcorn for how this will go! Don't you know all the right leaning groups only want to protect our constitutional rights to keep our women silent (and pregnant) , be able to destroy land, air and water for capitalism, take basic equality FROM others since there's only so much of that to go around, etc etc. come on you socialist!
 
This is a non partisan preparedness group. Period. Not a militia or right wing group. But people like to package things in labels. We will never get away from racism until we stop labeling blindly.
 
This is a non partisan preparedness group. Period. Not a militia or right wing group. But people like to package things in labels. We will never get away from racism until we stop labeling blindly.
I get that trhey label themselves as non partisan preparedness, but when they specifically list out groups they are preparing against, it doesn't take much imagination to connect the dots.
 
The whole point of this organization is to bring info and intel to people probably have zero training in gun fighting/medical treatment/prepping. Also establishing a group of people who can help those become prepared. The overall message is to provide intel to hostile events and steer away. Not engage. The list is simply identifying groups that would be considered hostle.
 
I think if you look at the resources provided, it can be useful. Mostly I think, as I do with many things, that the message is too "on brand". Would not be surprised if this was a continuation of Mikes CIA employment, and the purpose of the AmCon Locals.com page was to bait folks into voluntarily providing personal information, and those who wish to join the Contingency into allowing for background checks and Zoom/Skype calls to allow for their faces/voices to be recognized and/or recorded. Would not be surprised if I was wrong. Mike seems like a genuine fella.
 
I don't post very often, I tend to just lurk, but I figured I'd share this because I think it could actually be useful.

American Contingency | A Patriotic Movement

I'm not shilling this "platform" although I've used it for a few weeks and see great potential in it. The site is called American Contingency and it was made by Mike Glover, of Fieldcraft Survival. It's kind of a few different things at once.

It's a site that has pretty regular updates and posts of "Intel" of various events and stuff going on that you may want to know about or avoid in the areas you select, such as demonstration plans, riot alerts, ect. I think he's got some embedded people in some of the current movements that feed the pages pretty accurate and detailed information.

But it's also a platform for people to meet up locally and share their skills and train together. Basic framework for people to form together and stuff, but they're very strict on not calling it a militia.

My take from being in it for a few weeks, testing the waters, is that it has great potential. The people in the community there so far are all very nice and supportive and focused. They're trying really hard to not have it be yet another echo chamber for people to rant about politics, liberals, yadda yadda yadda and rather keep it focused and productive. There's videos that Mike Glover is posting regularly that are training focused. While you can basically learn everything on YouTube as it is, once he passes the basics, I think the content there will start getting more exclusive and intense.
Is this group associated with Bundy's group? I read an article the other day about bundy's group which apparently claims to be the "righteous" and are against the "wicked". Don't know anything about either group. Just read that one article.
 
You could be right - it's possible that more murders are committed by far-right extremists; I have no idea, and it is of no importance in the current struggle for power in the USA. What is important is that the groups listed are subversive, treasonous, anti-America, anti-freedom, anti-capitalist, anti-Constitution groups, with the goal of destroying the USA as we know it; and are close to completing their goal. That is also objective fact. Why is it important? Because the groups listed want to change the USA into a socialist/communist nation - the type of nation that millions of people risk their lives fleeing from every year. People from around the world risk their lives and the lives of their families to get inside the USA where they are free to work hard, succeed, and get to keep much of what they earn. People around the world understand that if you live in the USA you have won the lottery of life because of the freedom and opportunity we have here.

Your grandfather sounds like a very smart man. Someday, hopefully before it is too late, you will understand. You have until November 3, 2020 to "get it". After that, it may be too late.

;)
It's objective fact that generic environmental groups are anti-American? What? And y'all claim this bubblegum is non-partisan? Lmfao

The whole point of this organization is to bring info and intel to people probably have zero training in gun fighting/medical treatment/prepping. Also establishing a group of people who can help those become prepared. The overall message is to provide intel to hostile events and steer away. Not engage. The list is simply identifying groups that would be considered hostle.

If that's the point then he's not even good at it because he lists milquetoast groups like Sunrise Movement and 350.org and not the actual "radical" groups like Extinction Rebellion (responsible for blocking oil trains) and Greenpeace (responsible for the ShellNo protest where they hung off the St. John's bridge in 2015). And that's just my analysis of the environmental groups, the other ones are largely equally as laughable.

The dude clearly just listened to a Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder rant and wrote down some groups. His "intel" is mostly just reposting news articles.
 
I cannot believe anyone here is deluding themselves that this is apolitical. The vast majority of murders for partisan reasons in the US are committed by far-right extremists. This is objective fact.

Absolutely. Right wing groups and individuals have killed more people. Business Insider puts the numbers at 117 vs 21 since 2010. (Story is a little outdated, but gives a pretty good picture). It's pretty dumb to only oppose violent groups on one side of the aisle.


That being said, kill numbers don't take into account "low-level" aggression. Violence of left wing groups tends to be non-lethal (Burning, beating, intimidation, de-personing). Find me any set of right wing groups that has done nearly as much property damage and interpersonal violence over the past 25 years.

We can't bury our heads in the sand about either issue.
 
Absolutely. Right wing groups and individuals have killed more people. Business Insider puts the numbers at 117 vs 21 since 2010. (Story is a little outdated, but gives a pretty good picture). It's pretty dumb to only oppose violent groups on one side of the aisle.


That being said, kill numbers don't take into account "low-level" aggression. Violence of left wing groups tends to be non-lethal (Burning, beating, intimidation, de-personing). Find me any set of right wing groups that has done nearly as much property damage and interpersonal violence over the past 25 years.

We can't bury our heads in the sand about either issue.

Fair point but there is a reason it's only lawful to use deadly force to defend human life and not property. Property damage is not violence, it just isn't. If people were attacking housing I think it'd be a more reasonable comparison but it's lawful for me to use deadly force to stop a threat to my life or limb. It's not lawful (nor should it be) to use deadly force to stop people from looting a Target. That's what insurance is for.
 
You could be right - it's possible that more murders are committed by far-right extremists; I have no idea, and it is of no importance in the current struggle for power in the USA. What is important is that the groups listed are subversive, treasonous, anti-America, anti-freedom, anti-capitalist, anti-Constitution groups, with the goal of destroying the USA as we know it; and are close to completing their goal. That is also objective fact. Why is it important? Because the groups listed want to change the USA into a socialist/communist nation - the type of nation that millions of people risk their lives fleeing from every year. People from around the world risk their lives and the lives of their families to get inside the USA where they are free to work hard, succeed, and get to keep much of what they earn. People around the world understand that if you live in the USA you have won the lottery of life because of the freedom and opportunity we have here.

Your grandfather sounds like a very smart man. Someday, hopefully before it is too late, you will understand. You have until November 3, 2020 to "get it". After that, it may be too late.

;)

Also Donald "I like taking the guns early" Trump is an actual gun grabber, so if that's your only reason for supporting him you don't "get it" at all.
 
Fair point but there is a reason it's only lawful to use deadly force to defend human life and not property. Property damage is not violence, it just isn't. If people were attacking housing I think it'd be a more reasonable comparison but it's lawful for me to use deadly force to stop a threat to my life or limb. It's not lawful (nor should it be) to use deadly force to stop people from looting a Target. That's what insurance is for.


Property damage is 100% violence. If you decide to firebomb a business, that is doing violence. If you destroy my car in the middle of a protest, that is certainly violence. You are forcibly preventing someone from making their livelihood or other essential actions.

WRT Target - most insurance does NOT cover damages of this nature. For the vast majority of businesses, if you damage them, the cost goes to the owner...even with insurance. Perhaps it is different with Target, but I care more about small businesses, which are definitely affected.
 

Property damage is 100% violence. If you decide to firebomb a business, that is doing violence. If you destroy my car in the middle of a protest, that is certainly violence. You are forcibly preventing someone from making their livelihood or other essential actions.

WRT Target - most insurance does NOT cover damages of this nature. For the vast majority of businesses, if you damage them, the cost goes to the owner...even with insurance. Perhaps it is different with Target, but I care more about small businesses, which are definitely affected.

Merriam-Webster literally changes their definitions on the daily to appease people on Twitter so I'd take their definitions with a large grain of salt.

I think you're wrong about this, sorry to say. After DJT was elected in 2016 you may remember there were over a week of protests and a decent amount of property damage. Folks in the activist community raised over $60,000 to cover the costs of the damage and it turned out that it wasn't needed because all the damage was covered by insurance.
 
I think if you look at the resources provided, it can be useful. Mostly I think, as I do with many things, that the message is too "on brand". Would not be surprised if this was a continuation of Mikes CIA employment, and the purpose of the AmCon Locals.com page was to bait folks into voluntarily providing personal information, and those who wish to join the Contingency into allowing for background checks and Zoom/Skype calls to allow for their faces/voices to be recognized and/or recorded. Would not be surprised if I was wrong. Mike seems like a genuine fella.
Sounds like you have been watching to much Alex Jones. The government knows everything about anybody with a smart phone. Why would the CIA need 30k people background checks when they can get that info easily with the Patriot Act? If they wanted to group people for a watch list of extremist...its already been done.
 
Sounds like you have been watching to much Alex Jones. The government knows everything about anybody with a smart phone. Why would the CIA need 30k people background checks when they can get that info easily with the Patriot Act? If they wanted to group people for a watch list of extremist...its already been done.
Okay, I'll bite. Why do you assume I watch Alex Jones? He's not in my field of interest. I do tend to look at things more critically (cynically?) than many.
You're right. They absolutely could. But which end would paint them better if that info got out? That it was obtained in a way many would find distasteful or immoral? Or voluntarily?
Moreover, look at what happened with Ted Kasczinski. Wasn't on any watch list. So, if people sign up for something like this that is set up for a purpose other than stated by the AmCon folks, what better way to add to an existing watch list than by letting people put themselves on it?
Again, wouldn't be surprised if i was wrong, or if I was right. Just worth a bit more critical thinking, in my book.
Edit: Maybe I should have said Kascinski wasn't on the correct watchlist. I'm sure the CIA was keeping some sort of tabs on him from the time he was a subject in the mk ultra tests onward.
 
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