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Gary, I'm over here in Felida, above the creek.Foil-backed attic insulation works just as well for me. Or maybe it's all the 100' to 150' fir trees that totally hide my house from satellite observation. Regardless which accounts for it, I haven't seen a single black helicopter ince moving here. My thoughts? Since I keep getting those politcal opinion surveys to fill out, it seems apparent "they" haven't been able to read my thoughts.