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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by RicInOR, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Making the rounds is something like Harvard Study or Harvard Law Review
    On Guns -vs- Crime.

    Couple of things,
    1. If they can't get the study right, what else did they make up.
    2. It was originally published in '07
    3. We have threads on this from '13



    Here is the one I was directed to this morning
    Harvard University Study Reveals Astonishing Link Between Firearms, Crime and Gun Control
    According to a study in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, which cites the Centers for Disease Control, the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and the United Nations International Study on Firearms Regulation, the more guns a nation has, the less criminal activity.
    http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Artic...Astonishing-Link.aspx?p=1#CZtrxm2XgWDkPsFV.99


    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/216509/?show-at-comment=1784246#comment-1784246

    The Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy is the school's conservative journal. The authors of this article confuse it with the Harvard Law Review and seem kind of clueless.
    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/216509/?show-at-comment=1784212#comment-1784212
    http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
     
  2. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It was my understanding that this study has been largely discredited at this point. I used to reference it myself a while back, but all I would get in return were quotes and references to the lack of reputability of this particular study. I honestly don't know for certain if it's good or not, I just leave it alone now to avoid the distraction it causes.
     
  3. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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  4. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but Hemenway is a critic of guns and gun rights in general.
    He's just another Ivy-League elitist that lives in the fantasy world where no guns exist, and therefore there is less violent crime, murder and suicide.
    When statistics worldwide clearly show different. If those people were forced to use the term violence without the word "gun" as a precursor, they'd be lost. And just like in England, when guns are outlawed yet people are still being killed, raped beaten etc, he'll start advocating for the banning of knives, bats clubs etc., and create more victims of violent crime.

    All because he doesn't believe in the possibility of, or the right to, self defense. He is the epitome of shortsightedness and groupthink so prevalent in academia.
     
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  5. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he and most antis don't believe in self defense, but worse, they are actually afraid of self-defense. Outsourcing your safety to police is rather short sighted. It only works in a very small number of cases. Most of the time, police is there to collect the evidence. But it looks great on paper ...
     
  6. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    thats because you cant reason logically with people who believe in gun free zones.
     
  7. Koda

    Koda Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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    gun controllers will discredit or ignore all pro gun statistics and studies yet wont use the same method of analysis on theirs. I think its best to not bring up statistics when debating and simply discredit theirs when they eventually do. In reality, the argument of statistics is a wash, there are enough studies on both sides of the argument they cancel each other out.
     
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  8. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler wa Well-Known Member

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    Excellent point... a really excellent point.
     
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