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Happy Liquor Liberation Day!

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by mat33, Jun 1, 2012.

  1. mat33

    mat33 Portland, OR Active Member

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    Washington Supreme Court upholds I-1183 liquor law - Spokesman.com - June 1, 2012

    I'm driving across the river to Vancouver today to cast a vote with my dollars. I'll be thanking the good folks at Costco for getting the State of Washington out of the liquor business while stocking up on the forbidden fruit of Kirkland brand vodka. A friend thought it would be wrong to take me child with me, but that's because they are used to the shady Liquor brand liquor stores the state franchises here in Oregon. Today, we will be able to buy liquor with dignity along side our 5# bags of tortilla chips.

    Hopefully, those of you that believe in small government will do the same this weekend so we can encourage Costco to continue fighting neo prohibition.

    "I have a dream that one day the great people of Idaho will be free to purchase Five Wives brand vodka and that Oregonians will enjoy tax free rum with their tax free pineapple juice."

    Cheers!
     
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  2. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Oregon should take a lesson here.
     
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  3. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Yep now there is another 27% tax INCREASE on it too. Of course all the taxes you pay in the first place are still there too. More money for the gov........ No more state run liquor but with major price increases. Careful what you wish for.


    With added state fees, liquor prices could jump - Business - The Olympian - Olympia, Washington news, weather and sports
    However, the initiative also imposed an additional 10 percent distributor fee and a 17 percent retail fee on spirits to reimburse the state for millions of dollars in lost revenue.
     
  4. Gascan

    Gascan Vancouver, Not B.C. New Member

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    Cheers to Costco! :drink:
     
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  5. chizuck

    chizuck central Wa. Member

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    Yeah it all sounds great and then they tell you that the price is going up by as little as 15%. That was not the point of this bill, it was to get the gov out and make prices more competitive so consumers could get better deals. I remember telling my friends that were all excited about it saying we would be like comifornia, and I told them really your going to vote money out of there pockets and you don't think taxes will be raised to compensate for it. Don't get me wrong I am all for small government but this does not seem like a win to me.
     
  6. KONE KILLER

    KONE KILLER WASHOUGAL, WA Active Member

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    Agreed... Glad to see the man out of it a bit.
    The only down side is they have to make up for all that $$$$ the state run stores brought in... What did that bottle of Kirkland Vod cost ya? Cheaper than at the state store?
     
  7. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Congratulations Washington!! I know it is a shorter drive to Wa than Ca, and quite possible I'll have a better selection than here in Or, too!!

    Someone explain to me what the State Government is doing running a retail business anyway!
     
  8. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Still better. Only been to a liquor store 3-4 times my whole life (beer/wine drinker) but they always feel dirty and sleazy like you are sneaking into a porn palace.
     
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  9. BadMotel

    BadMotel Bellingham Active Member

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    I'm going to go ahead and say not better. Reasons:

    1.) Most people I know who voted for it was because it would "Be a helluva lot more convenient to just go to the store," not because it was written to increase state revenue which would be the real reason to vote for it.
    2.) Prices did go up, even though everyone thought they wouldn't. Not a huge deal for me (also beer/wine drinker), but kinda shoots the whole more convenient thing in the foot.
    3.) Lets not forget all the liquor store employees no longer in work. You can't complain about how the government is not creating enough jobs so you have to live on welfare and then go vote down a state run store that created state-workers job with benefits.
     
  10. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Would rather see private sector jobs and less state workers, better yet, less overpaid Federal workers paid by a printing press at the expense of inflation.
     
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  11. mat33

    mat33 Portland, OR Active Member

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    Unfortunate consequence indeed, but hopefully we can replace the liquor tax with a marijuana tax in a few years. Also, the prices will be going down over time. Distributers aren't pricing aggressively yet because they are potentially on the hook for a hefty tax bill if on March 31 next year. After that hurdle the wholesaler tax gets cut in half the following year.

    For me its about freedom. Let's compare the price of Kirkland vodka in Washington before and after the bill. Oh wait, Kirkland vodka wasn't available in Washington yesterday. Let's talk about no longer having to take my family to a seedy liquor store for tequila. Let's talk about no longer having to drive across town after work only to find the liquor store is closed. I'm hoping the pricing doesn't stop the momentum we have to continue striking down unnecessary layers of government foolishness.

    For those that cry about the loss of jobs, 1) Costco offered jobs to the liquor store workers 2) if you want to make work for somebody, start littering more. Somebody has to pick it up. If you don't like that, how about me make all grocery stores, no better yet, gun stores, state owned so everyone working there can have great government benefits.
     
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    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Don't you mean in addition to? I'm confident they'll figure out a way to waste any additional revenue.
     
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    chizuck central Wa. Member

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    I am in agreement with you statement entirely. The loss of jobs should be replaced by private company jobs because they will start selling liquor. Job loss in this was never my concern, just the state raping the people in another way to get any loss of money. The less the Government has to do with my day to day life the better and safer I fill.
     
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  14. mat33

    mat33 Portland, OR Active Member

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    Totally. Taking my son to Costco for booze was a lot less creepy than every other liquor run we've made since he was born even though it was probably the biggest haul.

    By the way, Costco was cheaper than the Oregon monopoly today...you just have to be willing to buy half gallons (hey, y'all are preppers and this stuff doesn't go bad). Selection was impressive across all price tiers too. One of the employees told me they got their prices about $2 below the old state store prices after all the taxes and will do even better next year when the taxes are set to roll back. A few other stores were light on stock because they just got their licenses this week. Prices were all over the board, but almost everyone had staff on the floor to help guide customers and work through issues, so by next week the other supermarkets will be in it to win it too.
     
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    Akathepriest Astoria, OR Active Member

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    And yet marijuana is still demonized and illegal.
     
  16. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Only vodka worth drinking is Polish vodka.
     
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    Ramjet12 PNW Member

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    I checked prices earlier today and Oregon has cheaper liquor and a better selection. For example..Canadian Mist. Oregon $11.95 Cheapest in Vancouver $13.29. I think Oregon will see an increase in sales from people in SW Washington. I buy in Oregon because they carry what I'm looking for. I didn't see any good Scotch at Safeway, Fred Meyers, or WinCo today.
     
  18. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I think the Washingtonians that voted for this are nuts. First off, I love my local liquor store. They know me there, it's the same group of employees, I enjoy chatting with the workers about new boozes and such, recomendations for a new gin. They have hundreds of specialty liquors and liqueurs, and better prices for bloody Mary mix, many types of olives, asperagas, etc. Ever try to find someone to ask a question in a Costco?

    Someone mentioned more employees in the store to cover liquor sales? Yeah right, like all the extra employees all the bars hired when video lottery went in the bars in Oregon? Didn't happen! What about shoplifting? People don't realize how much product leaves stores in PANTS, under dresses, in backpacks, large purses etc., with stores afraid to persue the thieves because of LIABILITY issues, it's just eaisier to raise the prices for the rest of us.

    How about the under age thieves? This'll be good, all you got to have is a group of three or so kids walk into the market with two of them distracting the employees while one of them them tucks a couple half gallons under the arms and boot-scoots out the door.
    Dead kids comin' up!

    Enjoy it, hope it doesn't back fire on you Washington.

    Mike
     
  19. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Yeah only the government is capable of dealing with those problems, a for profit business won't worry about stuff that losses money for them.

    Its attitudes like yours that enables nanny government to run your life, go ahead an submit, I will not.
     
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    shayne port townsend Active Member

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    Alcohol is a drug in my book and i liked it better when the drugs were sold out of a drug house. Now while at safeway i can watch all the people who turn to alcohol to comfort them buy whatever it is they need to get through life. Cool we can see who pays for there food with food stamps and then pays cash for booze . Im glad for the tax and hope it goes up. Guns get attacked all the time what about all the people alcohol kills . way to go washington . sorry i had to rant
     
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