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Gunsmith to Mill XD slide and install reflex sight

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by swpost10, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    I have an Burris Fast-Fire sight but want to leave the night sights in place as backup,
    like S&W CORE and Glock MOS do. Any recommendations for a smith competent for
    this job???? Thanks.
     
  2. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    As of lately, all roads lead to a member here by the name of Velzey.
    Very good gunsmith out past Estacada.
     
  3. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Looking to have it mounted like this, and do you already have the mount?

    I happen to know how to install them:)



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  4. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Looks like you know what you are doing, that's exactly what I want, at least a quote for it. I have a Glock dove tail mount but prefer the other; if I can afford it. Stan
     
  5. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Looks like you know what you are doing, that's exactly what I want. First I need a quote for it.
    I have a Glock dove tail mount but prefer the milled.
    Please quote the milled and cost for the mount separate (in case I need it).
    contact me at swpost1 at yahoo
    Thanks, Stan
     
  6. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Sent you an email Stan
     
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  7. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Got my gun back from Tim Copeland, looks great!

    My FF2 has some issues as a pistol-sight, see photo #4...
    the standard night-sights JUST allow access to the ill-placed
    ADJUSTMENT LOCK-SCREWS; some lower height sights allow
    using "Suppressor Sights" incase a laser failure on the Reflex
    sight BUT with the FF2 such sight BLOCK those important
    lock-screws to adjust aim.

    The factory setting are exact for windage, as verified with a
    barrel laser I have. Moving your head around shows the aiming
    dot and impact dot from the barrel laser follow each other.

    Trying to get drop data on a 9mm from muzzle to 50 feet is almost
    impossible.... with some trial putting the impact-dot on top of the
    aiming dot made it accurate at 50 feet.

    Emailing Springfield about this: They have no plans to compete with
    S&W CORE or Glock MOS guns and bring out their own optics-ready
    gun; :(

    The next was holster issues; as photo #5 shows my N82 IWB holster
    would not let the XD-sub seat with the FF2 attached; I got a Dermal tool
    and cut it to fit, although I might open it up a little more as seen in photo
    # 7. Had to remove the 4th rivet using a small cut in the back to pull it thru.
    N8-Squared did not respond to an email about them creating an optics-ready
    holster or modifying mine.

    Photo #9 shows the view thru the optics; nice BUT be aware your muscle
    memory from years for 3-dot sight shooting will not work with the new
    Reflex sight and you must use your distance glasses to see that dot; my
    tri-focals show a distorted blob from astigmatism.

    Thanks
    Tim and all those who contributed to my search.

    Be aware many of my photos are spun for some reason.

    #1 XD-sub with FF2.jpg #2 XD-sub FF2 left-rear view.jpg #3 XD-sub FF2 top-right-rear view.jpg #4 XD-sub FF2 top-rear view.jpg #5 XD-sub N8sqd IWB Unmodified holster.jpg #5_5 XD-sub N8sqd IWB modified holster.jpg #7 XD-sub N8sqd IWB modified holster w_XD closeup.jpg #8 XD-sub N8sqd IWB modied back cut.jpg #9 XD-sub FF2 thru-the lense.jpg
     
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  8. spookshack

    spookshack Forest Grove, OR Life Member Lifetime Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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  9. swpost10

    swpost10 SE Vancouver, WA Member

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    Follow up report:
    1) sight really stays zeroed, at least my $200+ FF2 does. :)
    2) my Nate-Squared pro holster works great once modified;
    HOWEVER the IWB holster allows the sight to Hook on
    the belt/waist-band and may hinder drawing! :eek::oops:
    3) If I get the sight on my duty gun that holster will still fit
    due to the Sub-compact being so closely sized to the duty gun.
    4) I have read several reviews of cheaper sights and their
    auto-brightness systems just shut the laser off in total
    darkness, not my FF2 HOWEVER:eek:: in such darkness it's
    impossible to find the sight-window; the black
    mil-grade plastic is lost in the darkness BUT, BUT :oops:
    in such lighting it's impossible to ID the target so
    you can't shoot anyway :confused:; without a flashlight
    that is.
    5) my Uncle-Mike's #27 duty holster simply doesn't reach
    that high on the slide so the FF2 or similar sight doesn't hit.

    Thanks again for the fine work Velzey!! :D:):cool:
    Thanks for the recommendation jbett98 :D

    I've been taking extra time tending to an ill family member and
    will have to report on the sight's handling qualities later; it does
    require practice as the sight picture is located different so your
    muscle memory will have to be re-learned some. o_O:rolleyes:

    Found this Police related report everyone might learn from:
    Are Pistol Optics Ready For Duty? (http://www.policemag.com/channel/weapons/articles/2016/05/are-pistol-optics-ready-for-duty.aspx)
     
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  10. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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  11. WeldonMiguel

    WeldonMiguel PDX Member

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