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Gun-toting traveler sues Delta for New York arrest

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ATCclears, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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  2. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    I hope he wins because of the smell of it Delta going past their own interests in ratting to the NY authorities. Just worry about getting passengers from here to there, bring me my drink and shut up.
     
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  3. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    Actually, NYC and NYS with their unconstitutional laws are what is actually wrong and need to be changed. That said, I think the guy is at fault(knowing NYC law a bit, yes, the airline clerk was in legal jeperdy if not reporting), but if Delta knew that, they should have made some provision...

    which comes to the logical conclusion..do not fly into, or out of, any NY airport...I don't, even if the ultimate destination is NY/
     
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  4. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    Zero chance of success. If you can't sue New Jersey under FOPA, an airline sure as hell isn't going to be liable for his dumb mistake.

    I do wonder about these people who travel with their firearms without reading the law of the place they are going to. First time in the big city maybe?
     
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  5. Tangent123123

    Tangent123123 Battle Ground Active Member

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    The airline isn't responsible for telling you what the laws are for carrying. That's 100% on you. BUT...

    "After a Delta agent called the police, he was arrested and spent a night in jail."

    I think THAT was pretty bubblegumty.
     
  6. sheltonshooter

    sheltonshooter Shelton/Olympia New Member

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    I hate lawsuits in general. More lawsuits = more laws and restrictions. He should have been more diligent about his knowledge of laws and travel. Mark failed.
     
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  7. sheltonshooter

    sheltonshooter Shelton/Olympia New Member

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    Agreed about the police call. That was lame.
     
  8. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

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    I agree. The right to travel across the country without fear of prosecution while in transit from one destination to another is a pretty obvious right. NYC laws should not apply to travelers inside airports or other major transit terminals.
     
  9. bikejunkie

    bikejunkie Salem Well-Known Member

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    Seems to me that if they require you to declare you have a firearm checked in your luggage per their specification, and they know by your destination that you retrieving said luggage will be a crime they are obligated to report, the absolute minimum they need to do is tell you these facts before you check the gun and get on the goddamn plane! I agree the guy is also responsible for knowing the laws of where he is headed, but if the airline is required to rat him out, they should tell him at the beginning

    I didn't vote in the poll- there needs to be a third option "there's plenty of blame to go around- both are in the wrong"
     
  10. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    It is my beleif that if you are transporting firearms that you are repsonsible for knowing and following the law in any location those firearms are transffered through - to say differently is the equivalent of making someone else repsonsible for your actions. What I beleive is wrong is that there is no set of standards that exist in all states. The fact that there appear to be no standards does not releave the owner of the firearms from knowing the laws. IMHO

    James Ruby
     
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