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Gun shows in Washington?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by PlayboyPenguin, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    How do gun shows work in Washington? How does the waiting period work? Do vendors collect sales tax? Etc?
     
  2. vico512

    vico512 Seattle area Member

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    It probably varies by show. I'm most familiar with the WAC shows that occur every two weeks in Monroe & Puyallup...

    You have to be a WAC member to buy a firearm, and vendors (not private sellers) will charge sales tax. If you have a CPL, you can walk out the door with a handgun. If not, the waiting period applies.

    My $0.02...
     
  3. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    For Washington Arms Collectors
    You must be a member to purchase guns . All members must have a background check - Most already have thier CPL so no wait period for handguns.
    they do collect the Sales Tax but many of them will pay the tax for you.
    For all the details go to WashingtonArmsCollectors.org

    I do know about the other shows in the state. So far I have not been to any others.
     
  4. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    And there is the problem with WAC...
     
  5. Outrider

    Outrider Oregon Active Member

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    WAC is a club. Their shows are club events. If you're not a member of club you can attend but you don't get the same rights and privileges as club members.

    The way WAC does it makes a lot of sense. You have to pass a NICS check to be a member. That means any member can sell to any other member there and not have to guess about whether the buyer is legit or not. And once a member you get to go to the shows for free. It's $35 for a year's membership. That gets a member two shows a month. That's a much better deal than paying to go to the Portland Expo.
     
  6. Skang

    Skang WA Well-Known Member

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    only gun show in close to vancouver is fair gound gun show at battle ground. and i heard it's small and not really worth of going unless you know what you are looking for.
     
  7. protected static

    protected static Pugetopolis Member

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  8. vico512

    vico512 Seattle area Member

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    And the point is....?
     
  9. protected static

    protected static Pugetopolis Member

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    Did you read the link?

    I just found it ironic that in one browser tab I had open an article detailing the misdeeds of a WAC member at WAC shows, and in another tab, someone explaining the peace of mind that should come from dealing with WAC members who've cleared NICS checks. That's all. No real point.
     
  10. shotgun-2

    shotgun-2 south snohomish co. wa. Member

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    I have been following this on another gun website, the person arrested was a table holder that sold the gun at a WAC show in Puyallup Wa. He was also an active member on another local firearms web site. Feds did a sting operation on him. Sounds like a bullshxx deal to me.
     
  11. vico512

    vico512 Seattle area Member

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    OK - got it! Sounds like the seller (in the link) was screwing the pooch & trying to skirt FFL regs, rather than just a hobby.
     
  12. Outrider

    Outrider Oregon Active Member

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    It would be interesting to hear how the seller "knew" that both purchasers were prohibited from possessing firearms. There's probably more to this story...

    Whatever the case, if the buyers had felony and domestic violence convictions they can't pass a NICS check or be members of the WAC. It wouldn't surprise me if the seller tried to make some extra money by knowingly selling to a prohibited person. -Years ago, there was one private seller at the WAC shows who always had a table covered with beaten up guns. His prices were always outrageous, i.e. $600 for a used Glock that looked like it had been dragged down several miles of gravel road. The only plus to buying from him was no useful paper trail on the firearm. I wonder if that was the guy they nailed.

    Normally, WAC is good about policing their shows. I've been at WAC shows where people have been thrown out for selling firearms to non-members or not following WAC rules. It's kind of sad what people will do for an extra $50 - $100.

    Regarding the peace of mind, the idea is that it's less of a gamble buying from a WAC member or selling to a WAC member. With the incident cited, the buyers could not be WAC members so it's not a transfer between two WAC members in good standing. According to the complaint, what we have is a seller choosing to sell to prohibited persons. Anyone can choose to do something illegal. There's nothing to stop someone with a concealed carry permit from deciding to shoot up a place. People can shoot back to stop him in his tracks, but you can't prevent people from choosing to commit a crime. Still, the odds are someone who bothered to get the permit probably is willing to try to follow the rules and be decent.
     
  13. protected static

    protected static Pugetopolis Member

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    Oh, I agree. The timing of the 2 postings struck my funny bone is all...
     
  14. PBinWA

    PBinWA Clark County Well-Known Member

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    I've been to one show at the Clark County Fairgrounds. I went with my neighbor and he bought a handgun. He had a CPL and had no wait other than the phone call. I'm pretty sure he paid tax.
     
  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    To the TS.
    I go to some gun shows,not the WAC show though.The prices are too high any more.
    Not worth the time to buy used guns at new prices.If I lived close,I would go every once in a while.
    Just MHO.

    I do go to the ones that come up here to Clalam and Kitsap county.Mostly just to look around and BS.One local dealer says his best days are gun show days.

    The little show table holders are mostly private sales with no paper work.

    So I guess to get info and look at a wide variety of guns,the shows are good.To find parts and one of a kind stuff? Yes. To buy? Not so much.

    Oh and WAC members,there ain't much arguing the price thing.Most everyone that holds a table is over priced on guns.
     
  16. wiresparker

    wiresparker puyallup valley New Member

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    Well, I would say, Puyallup W A C show is the best one around.
    Most of the sellers are friendly and many will deal a little.
    went yesterday and found the shoulder rig I was looking for.
    Hey!!! got time to go back today, only 10 miles.
    sparks
     
  17. vico512

    vico512 Seattle area Member

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    I went to the Puyallup show today, as well. Kinda light on both tables & turn-out, this time around. Played with a lot of firearms, but I wasn't really looking to buy -- nothing jumped up and convinced me to take it home! I did pick up some .44 Mag Starline cases. Components & ammo typically make-up most of my show purchases.

    Mainly, it's just fun to wander around & schmooz...
     
  18. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Sorry what?

    IN MY EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST 20+ YEARS I have seen the Puyallup show go from a great place to buy guns,to a great place to look at curio.Say what you will and show a couple of great deals.For the most part,again in my experience of going to quite a few gun shows,all over the west side,it isn't the best place to buy OR sell a gun.

    This has been MY experience,some results will vary.

    There are a few deals around.Every once in a while you get a great bargain.
    I love gun shows.I go to all I have time to go to.But I won't spend the time to travel to Puyallup to actually buy something,unless I intend to hit Sportco too.

    Too many guys out there that start with great prices to bother "haggling" for a used gun at a new price.

    just sayin' (been doing the gun shows for quite a while bro.)

    Haggle? Get the prices below new and I will ask a price.Be reasonable in the first place.
     
  19. bmw2

    bmw2 Mount Vernon, Wa Active Member

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    The Monroe show pricing tends to be more reasonable, although I don't find pricing to be out of line at either show. There are always exceptions to that. Like anything else, you need to know what your buying and what a good price is.

    The falcon run shows are a crap shoot as far as pricing is concerned but I still go to the local ones. They do require a receipt with your I.D. and the guns serial number be filled out and you and the seller both get a copy.

    I've only been a couple of times but the Chehalis show has had some great deals.
     
  20. mxitman

    mxitman N. Seattle Member

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    I've only been to the WAC shows, I have no problem shelling out the $35 for the membership as long as I get to 2-3 shows a year. I've found some great deals and have missed out on a few too. I always haggle the price, specially if it's getting late in the day on Sunday. Best deals are found when a seller hasn't had a great weekend and needs to sell something, or first thing Saturday morning but it's hard to haggle at the start of the day. Don't forget to ask about trades, I had a Colt trooper I couldn't sell for what I wanted and I found a guy who took it in trade for what I was asking and I got what I wanted for only another $200.