Gun Ownership vs. HIPAA

[DMax]

A New Proposed Bill anyone else know about this.


April 24, 2013: Citizens' Council for Health Freedom

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[PiratePast40]

That information has no reason to be a part of the NICS check system. Adjudication is the key here, not a doctors opinion.

 

[NWGlockgal]

Great. First they pass all these obnoxious HIPPA rules which are a pain. Now they want us to break them.

 

[PiratePast40]

i just don't see how this can gain any traction.

 

[kumabear17]

i just don't see how this can gain any traction.

It doesn't have to be traction. 0 can initiate some action through the ATF. Wonder what his thoughts are on screwing with the VA. He'd get big pushback, but we've seen Congress is to gutless to resolve anything - Fast & Furious and Benghazi. All this could be one more step toward a Constitutional showdown. Impeachment sound good, but I wouldn't count on the Libs to stand up for a document they've been trying to destroy.
Butch

 

[jefe]

That information has no reason to be a part of the NICS check system. Adjudication is the key here, not a doctors opinion.

per the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments nobody can have their constitutional rights taken away without adjudication. does anyone know how california is able to get away with confiscating firearms without adjudication? i heard that a woman voluntarily (no courts, no judge) checked herself into a clinic in december, only to have her (and her husband's) firearms confiscated in march. apparently, the nurse at the clinic reported to the state police that the woman had firearms at her residence.

ever notice how politicians aren't mentioning "adjudication"? you'd think conservative pundits and republicans would comment on how the democrats want to strip away a citizen's rights without adjudication. i mean, they;re already talking about how obama has killed american citizens with drone strikes. the only person who has "religiously" mentioned adjudication is that law professor out of colorado--the guy testified before feinstein during the first committee hearing back in february (?).

 

[jefe]

It doesn't have to be traction. 0 can initiate some action through the ATF. Wonder what his thoughts are on screwing with the VA. He'd get big pushback, but we've seen Congress is to gutless to resolve anything - Fast & Furious and Benghazi. All this could be one more step toward a Constitutional showdown. Impeachment sound good, but I wouldn't count on the Libs to stand up for a document they've been trying to destroy.
Butch

maybe members of congress are cataloging all of obama's transgressions, in preparation for an eventual impeachment that obama won't be able to walk away from. i mean, bush was bad (perhaps bad enough for impeachment), but obama is horrible.

 

[Stomper]

maybe members of congress are cataloging all of obama's transgressions, in preparation for an eventual impeachment that obama won't be able to walk away from. i mean, bush was bad (perhaps bad enough for impeachment), but obama is horrible.

Really? They can't be bothered to read the bills they sign into law, and the list of O's transgressions would be waaaay bigger than the bills they can't be bothered to read... not going to happen, because they are all in on it. There is no other explanation.

 

[PiratePast40]

per the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments nobody can have their constitutional rights taken away without adjudication. does anyone know how california is able to get away with confiscating firearms without adjudication? i heard that a woman voluntarily (no courts, no judge) checked herself into a clinic in december, only to have her (and her husband's) firearms confiscated in march. apparently, the nurse at the clinic reported to the state police that the woman had firearms at her residence....(?).

According to one of the articles, a judge authorized the confiscation. I don't know enough about the judicial process to know if that was considered adjudication. I have no idea if the circumstances were a violation of HIPPA law. Perhaps her admittance into the clinic was public knowledge? And from what I understand about California, all firearms are registered, so it would be easy to cross check data bases. In Oregon, the State Police keeps records of used firearms trnsferred through a FFL and also "may" keep records from any FFL sale. We may be closer to implemention of this than we know!

 

[duane black]

According to one of the articles, a judge authorized the confiscation. I don't know enough about the judicial process to know if that was considered adjudication. I have no idea if the circumstances were a violation of HIPPA law. Perhaps her admittance into the clinic was public knowledge? And from what I understand about California, all firearms are registered, so it would be easy to cross check data bases. In Oregon, the State Police keeps records of used firearms trnsferred through a FFL and also "may" keep records from any FFL sale. We may be closer to implemention of this than we know!

RE CA ;

Handguns that were entered into the DROS system are registered. Those would be purchased through a FFL, or family transfers where the person sent in the intra familial transfer form. There is also a new resident form that would cause the gun to be known by the state.

Assault weapons were suppose to be registered during a narrow window.

Rifles are going to start being registered January 1 2014.

I'm not sure how the DOJ was confiscating guns, after I left the socialist workers paradise I stopped hanging out on cal guns.

I know from reading a couple articles these seemed to be knock and talks where folks didn't seem to watch the never talk to police video.

If cops show up on your doorstep and don't have a warrant, nicely tell them to go bubblegum themselves.

I have been seeing guys say on these boards for YEARS that registration leads to confiscation.

Yup, it seems it does...

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