Gun Laws in Other Countries

[Emerald]

I'm sorry if this has been covered before. I searched and didn't come up with anything, though my search skills may be limited.

Is there another country that offers the firearms freedom (such as it is) that we have in the US? That is, if I wanted to go live in another country, where might I find things equal to or better than the US for gun rights? And I'm talking about relatively developed countries. I wouldn't want to live in Afghanistan, the Ivory Coast, or Mali.

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[Modeler]

Some other countries allow full-auto and have different barrel-length requirements, but most of them also have universal registration. Any EU country is required to have universal firearm registration by 2014.

That is the sum total of my knowledge of such things.

 

[Emerald]

The US allows full auto with registration.

 

[Modeler]

Yeah, no bubblegum. But there is the Hughes amendment problem here, in the other countries they can be new manufacture.

 

[MrFiux]

Serbia has similar gun laws but with registration. You can have full auto.

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[Tbucket]

By the way, we have more freedoms than any other country on the planet. That's why this great country was started in the first place.

 

[tac]

Trust me when I tell you this - there is NO other country on Planet Earth that has the private ownership of fireams guaranteed by the founding documentation.

I'm not sure quite what Mr Modeler means by his statement. I am a former Crown Expert Witness on firearms-related matters, particularly the use of illegal firearms in criminality - specialising in CCTVand other forms of imagery capture - and can tell you all that there is NO country in the current EU that does NOT have some form of gun registration and licensing in its laws.

In particular, Serbia may well be the only country in the EU that permits ANY kind of fully-automatic firearm in the possession of a civilian. Let's not also forget that armed citizens of this country also stand accused of carrying out wholesale acts of genocide within the last twenty years - in the case of Srebrenice, 8000 at a time. Nothing in Serbia would surprise me.

Some, including the United Kingdom, do not permit semi-auto centre-fire rifled firearms. Three-quarters of the UK [three out of the four countries of which it is comprised], have a metallic cartridge-firing handgun ban. The other quarter, Northern Ireland, not only allows its citizens to own any kind of a handgun, but it also has a comparatively large CCW programme in place - ~3000 people at risk carry on a daily basis. Two adjacent Crown Dependencies - the Isle of Man and The Channel Islands, also permit their population to own handguns.

Others do not permit the civilian ownership of military calibres - France and Italy.

I am not counting those countries on the planet where everybody seems to have an AK or similar from the ageo eight on up. They appear to have no laws either banning them or permitting them - they just have them.

But to sum it up - the USA is unique.

Long may it last.

tac, back in yUK after a month in beautiful Oregon.

 

[Modeler]

I spent a couple hours researching it for myself a year or two ago; my comments are the vague recollection of that research. I seem to recall that in some European countries suppressor use is not only allowed, it's fairly common and is seen as good manners to avoid excessive noise pollution. But again, that's just a vague recollection of detailed research in the past.

 

[MrFiux]

Tac I believe Scotland and Wales have the same laws as England. I would like to know where in the U.K. you were because I am in Berkshire at the moment. Hopefully with theh repeal the 1997 handgun ban.

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[tac]

I spent a couple hours researching it for myself a year or two ago; my comments are the vague recollection of that research. I seem to recall that in some European countries suppressor use is not only allowed, it's fairly common and is seen as good manners to avoid excessive noise pollution. But again, that's just a vague recollection of detailed research in the past.

The ENTIRE UK is one such country where the use of suppressors is not only encouraged, especially when night-shooting, but, in some locations, mandatory. Conservation control wardens, for instance, are all required to have suppressors on their dail-use rifles. Many game wardens and keepers also have them. They are a licenseable item, and must be applied for and noted on the shooter's Firearm Certificate.

Most long arms of all calibres sold here are already muzzle-threaded for this reason.

tac

 

[tac]

Tac I believe Scotland and Wales have the same laws as England. I would like to know where in the U.K. you were because I am in Berkshire at the moment. Hopefully with theh repeal the 1997 handgun ban.

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As I noted in my post, the United Kingdom consists of four countries - England, Northen Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The three constituent countries of Great Britain - England, Scotland and Wales, have identical gun laws - those imposed by the Westminster Government. On the imposition of the last ban, metallic cartridge-firing handguns of all kind, back in 1997 after a school massacre, handguns of this kind were banned on the big island - Great Britain. The legislative assembly that governs Northern Ireland told the Westminster government to go pound sand, and kept thir handguns.

The 1997/7 Amendments to the Firearms Acts, banning the ownership of metallic cartridge handguns for the general shooter, will NEVER be repealed, no matter how much we protest it. Certain categories of handgun ARE permitted -

1. The so-called Long Barrelled revolver, single-shot pistol 22RF or centre-fire pistol, and the long-barrelled .22 semi-auto pistol.

2. ALL kinds of blackpowder loose-loading handguns, single or multiple shot - hence the amazing collection of Ruger Old Army BP revolvers here in UK - more than nay other country on earth except the USA.

Certain categories of permit for handguns of historical or technological interest may be acquired under Section 5[a] of the Act - they may be obtained purely for the intellectual interest of histoical contextual 'conversation', but they may not be fired. Section 5 covers the shooting of such fireams, again in the context of historical research. However, there are only about five location in England - none in wales or Scotland - where this 'intellectually-inspired' BS shooting can take place under supervision. I do not prospose to join in either element, having commanded troops.

I live in East Anglia. PM me to talk more.

tac, an useful acronym

 

[kukusya]

Russia- you can have shotgun at age 18. Registration and mental test required. You only can obtain rifle after 5 year having shotgun and paying hunting dues. No handguns except traumatic (have rubber bullets) and gas (loaded with tear gas).

 

[kukusya]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_(handgun)

 

[U201491]

Its what makes America unique.
We intend to make damn sure it stays that way.

 

[tac]

Its what makes America unique.
We intend to make damn sure it stays that way.

Amen.

tac

 

[taylor]

What are the gun laws in Israel? I believe they may be similar to ours.

 

[pchewn]

What are the gun laws in Israel? I believe they may be similar to ours.

I found this information at Guns in Israel: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law

You can enter any country you want and then explore the gun laws. You can even compare countries against each other. The information for the USA appears to be factually correct, but I found it alarming that they don't mention that the US Constitution guarantees a right to gun ownership (they only mention the laws like Brady , etc).

Sorry for the formatting, but I just copied and pasted from the web site:

In Israel, only licensed gun owners33 5 may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition
CompareGenuine Reason Required for Firearm Licence
Applicants for a gun owner's licence in Israel are required to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, self-defence, hunting and sport34 35 5
CompareMinimum Age for Firearm Possession
The minimum age for gun ownership in Israel is 27 years and 21 years if served in the military34
CompareGun Owner Background Checks
An applicant for a firearm licence in Israel must pass background checks which consider health, mental and criminal34 5 records
CompareGun Owner Licensing Period
In Israel gun owners must re-apply and re-qualify for their firearm licence every 3 years33
CompareLicensing Records
In Israel, authorities maintain a record36 37 of individual civilians licensed to acquire, possess, sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition
CompareLimit on Quantity, Type of Ammunition
A licensed firearm owner in Israel is permitted to possess a limited quantity of ammunition38

 

[pchewn]

Serbia has similar gun laws but with registration. You can have full auto.

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Serbia laws found at Guns in Serbia: Facts, Figures and Firearm Law
They seem to differ from what you stated.

In Serbia, the right to private gun ownership is not guaranteed by law54 53
Compare
Prohibited Firearms and Ammunition
In Serbia, civilians are not allowed to possess long automatic firearms, short automatic and combined firearms and special weapons if not otherwise stipulated by the Act, silencers, or infra-red sighting devices63
CompareRegulation of Automatic Assault Weapons
In Serbia, private possession of fully automatic weapons is prohibited63
CompareRegulation of Semiautomatic Assault Weapons
In Serbia, private possession of semi-automatic assault weapons is prohibited, with the exception of approved hunting rifles63
CompareRegulation of Handguns
In Serbia, private possession of handguns (pistols and revolvers) is permitted under licence64

 

[taylor]

Most countries including Israel and Serbia have become much stricter and petty over gun rights as the liberal agenda spreads across the globe. In countries where they're very existence is at stake(Israel) has become increasingly more liberal and appeasing the same groups that would exterminate them if given the chance. People just never seem to learn.

 

[michaels]

. By the way, we have more freedoms than any other country on the planet. That's why this great country was started in the first place.

Umm, after all the crap that's been coming out about nsa spying, project prism, "patriot" acts 1,2,3 fbi using drones on us soil without oversight...... I mean this in the nicest way. But you're not grasping what freedoms people have in other countries. Seriously, talk with people from other places, find out what you're missing. I think gun rights supporters, if they are activists for freedom as some claim to be, should be a little more concerned about some of the other amendments, instead of just fixating on the 2nd.