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Gun laws, 2PM today

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Just Jim, Jan 22, 2010.

  1. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Glenn Beck is putting his documentry on progressive (liberals) politics today and is a must see. You will understand the liberal stand toward gun controls and why they have to control our guns to control us. Watch it and learn the truth. 2 pm on Fox News:thumbup:

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  2. xstayfrostyx

    xstayfrostyx PDX Member

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    GLENN BECK IS "CONTROLLED OPPOSITION".

    He is not your friend, nor is he on OUR side. The same people that own him (along with Fox news) also own all of the liberal news outlets around the globe. This allows them to control both sides of the argument. Any student of history can tell you that this is not a new concept by any stretch of the imagination:

    "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
    - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

    Not looking to pick a fight here, just pointing out my own personal observation. :twocents:
     
  3. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Beck has come out progun on both his radio show and TV show. You will see the roots of liberal progressives that want to control your life on his show today, that is why people talk bad about him as he tells the truth and stands behind the constitution. Watch it and make up your mind then.

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  4. Karma

    Karma the woods in Oregon Active Member

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    Glen Beck is about as good as it get's these days. He is behind the constitution 100% and has no problems exploiting the crap going on it Washington. I have heard this argument a few times. What makes you say that? I am curious.
     
  5. jimwsea

    jimwsea Vancouver, Washington state Active Member

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    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yeap, the money frames the debate, they pit the angry Limbaugh - Beck folks against the liberals. Since the liberals are the ones trying to stop the money from taking over even more of Ameirca, this serves the money's interest. The forces of the money do this so well that the right is not even capable of watching the money in operation without somehow making it part of a liberal conspriracy. Meanwhile the Money sets the playing field garnering more wealth and creating an aristocracy for themselves, while slowy turning the rest of us into peons.

    When the money feels our guns are a danger to them they will try and take them away, and they will use the police and the army to do their bidding, but no worries now, not when they got most of us looking the other way.

    Money = Power in America, the media is for sale, the yappers are well paid and have only contempt for truth, and in this way votes are bought and sold.

    One person one vote, one billion dollars ten million votes, who gets represented?
     
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    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Who is "them" ?? Please be specific, I mean like, name names..........:dunno:
     
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    Monkeyman Portland, OR Member

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    This comment suggests to me that you think the liberal agenda is on the side of the people, the little guy. If indeed, the libs are trying to "stop the money" it's only because they want the power, and the money, for themselves.

    If you look at the numbers, the Democratic party raises an overwhelming chunk of their money from Wall St., lawyers, and corporations. The idea that the Dems are the party of the little guy is a crock. Hasn't been that way since Bubba Clinton sold (what was left of) his soul to the Chinese Army for campaign cash.
     
  9. Karma

    Karma the woods in Oregon Active Member

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    Yep. The argument that the libs are for the little guy was bad before Obama, but it is impossible to argue that now! This administration has done nothing but pander to unions and the businesses that they like, for example GE.

    The idea that liberals are against the free market and money never held water. Look at Hollywood. It is almost completely controlled by liberals. ****, look at Micheal Moore and old Al Gore. Both of those buffoons have made millions of dollars off of liberal emergencies! There is a ton of money behind the libs, that is why votes are getting bought in open and all.

    The only thing I have seen from Beck is down the line with the constitution. That is why I like the guy. It is rare these days that people even give the constitution any thought at all.
     
  10. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Beck has repeatedly supported our right to firearms which the left and the progressives have voted repeatedly to remove. The real big money to take away our guns is comming from your own pocket through taxes levied by the tax and spenders. After todays show if you can still call yourself a liberal then tell us all.

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  11. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Of all the "facts" in the news these days at least Glen Beck shows the other side of things.
    Only 2-3 Conservative news stations at best (That I've found) isn't good at all. He does rant and rave a bit, but I'd get that irritated if I was in his seat as well.
     
  12. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    OK, but...

    Democrats have sold out, they are no more liberal than the sell out Repubs are conservative. Except for a few exceptions both parties are wholy owned proxies of the Money. The Dems aren't trying to stop the money, look at the health care reform bill, it leaves the same forces that have been ripping us off for decades still in control and free to overcharge. Real liberals want health care to cost us half, or what the rest of the developed world pays for it, and so do real conservatives. There is no free market in health care, and the vested interests have become way too piggy while having no incentive to be efficient at all.

    Our 2 party system is broken. With the Supreme Court decision of a few days ago corporations will be directly buying politicans, and the corporations with the most money are the ones that just sell useless contracts to each other declaring both sides have an asset (investment banks), the same weasels that nearly took us down with their absurd behavior a year and half ago.

    Real liberals and conservatives are on the side of the people against the subtle take over of the country by the money. No conservative wants to see this countries democratic traditions turned into a hollow facade, nor do they see value in turing the markets into places for simple theft. And no liberal wants the government and judicial systems taken over by the money, as our personal liberties will suffer. A system in which justice becomes only the interests of the stronger party is a horror to the thoughtful on both ends of the political sprectrum. The other political camps are all over the place and way too many of them on the right have declared sell out pundits as their own personal political saviors. We are all capable of thinking for ourselves, and a simple critical view of the information being presented to us ought to be enough to show us that we are being hoodwinked. There are at least two sides to evey argument, not a tenth of side.
     
  13. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    It was a great show and delivered more than I expected. Beck is the best information man on TV and the way he connects everything in history to what is happening today sends a chill up a thinking mans spine.

    When one of Obamas flunkies stated she turned to Mao for guidence even though he Mao has murdered over 65 million people it tells me how far gone America is. Thank God we have our guns for that is the only reason Progessives haven't set up gas chambers to kill the unwanted here in America.



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  14. DeLorean

    DeLorean Washington/Oregon Member

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    Smart man!
     
  15. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Beck Facts as dispensed, so an Obama Flunky turns to Mao? I can only guess this is referring to Anita Dunn, who mentioned the young Mao, and not the latter despot, an example of someone who defined themselves. Dunn also used Mother Theressa as another example in this speech. And this important speech was for a high school graduation, yes an affair of state for sure, sheesh.

    So, an Obama Funky turns to Mao, yeah sure!

    Your last line is just pathetic, take a distorted reference and turn it into a desire by progressives to murder people? McFacts become McFantasy! I see no value in this sort of BS, it can't be used to solve anything and we end up fighting only about the character of reality.
     
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    Totalled Cold can of Olympia New Member

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    These two things are mutually exclusive.
     
  17. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    You follow your indoctrination well:D Comrade:bluelaugh::bluelaugh:

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    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Republicans and Demorats are just two sides of the same coin, neither has our best interests at heart!
     
  19. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes the replys are just too much:bluelaugh::bluelaugh::bluelaugh: So Dunn was talking about a young Mao who later killed over 60 million. So it's possible if she would have been talking about a young Hitler then that would have been fine with you too.:D

    So you don't agree that the socialist murder millions yet they have and it's a fact. Plus they murder the unborn by the millions and that's a fact. Hitler was a socialist and used gas to kill who knows how many and that's a fact. So far the only fantasy is in your mind and the koolaide that you drink.

    Beck is pro gun. Beck has exsposed the left for who they are, gun grabers. Without Beck standing up to these progressives we don't stand a chance of keeping our guns. The left wing news media is in lockstep with the progressives so they will never tell the truth. I don't think you would know it if you saw it.

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  20. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Progressives are in both parties. There are still some good people in office that stand with the constitution and our rights to firearms. Weed out all the progressives and we get our country back.

    We are at a point of financial meltdown that could trigger the progressives to do things against our rights. Better to know who they are and what is comming if you want a chance to vote and stop it.

    jj

    Got this off another site and the guys says we are at 294.07. Will things repeat themselves? We had progressives in office then and now doing the same crap so figure it out.

    http://stockcharts.com/charts/historical/djia19201940.html
     
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