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Gun issue represents tough politics for Obama

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by civilian75, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    This is hardly "news", but thought about sharing anyways. An abridged version of this aritcle was published on the Oregonian yesterday.

    Gun issue represents tough politics for Obama | oregonlive.com
     
  2. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    Until and unless he is reelected. Then it becomes tough politics for us.
     
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  3. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Why do people insist that "he hasn't done anything anti-gun, therefore he must be anti-gun" is a valid argument? He has an *F* from the Brady Campaign. People for whom gun control is a positive thing can't stand him. If he wants their vote, he would need to do something BEFORE the election. He won't, because he knows it's an issue he CAN'T deal with.

    Even if he wins, he won't do anything, because he knows it would destroy moderate support for Democratic congressmen.
     
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  4. Sling Blade

    Sling Blade Yamhill County Well-Known Member

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    I sincerely doubt it, as he'll have way more on his hands than he knows what to do with and gun control is a totally losing bet for him or anyone.
     
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  5. Both Eyes Open

    Both Eyes Open Hood Canal Active Member

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    I can't say that I am impressed with the current GOP options but the fact that Obama has been as silent as he has on gun control issues really peeves me!!! It would be nice to know where our politicians stand on such important issues! (from their mouths)
     
  6. pogi

    pogi Gresham, OR Active Member

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    Gun control is quitely being worked behind the scenes. The Zero has already put two anti-2A judges on the Supreme Court and if he gets a second term, that number could go up. Fast & Furious/Gunwalker was an attempt to put lawful US gunowners on the hot seat. They all like the UN small arms treaty...

    He sure as **** is going to make a run but it will most likely be in a second term.
     
  7. Both Eyes Open

    Both Eyes Open Hood Canal Active Member

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    So who from the GOP would you recoment????????
     
  8. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Of course he is silent. Why even bring it up when you have your Justice Department doing your dirty work for you? Duh!
     
  9. swoop

    swoop Milwaukie, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If you want to know where obama stands on gun control, check out his voting record while he was in the senate.
     
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  10. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I see the press once again protecting their Wonder Boy from the ire of gun control advocates, excusing his current behavior, reassuring them things will change on his 2nd term, while he is preparing the stage for his GC agenda offensive.
     
  11. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Agree with both.

    Serious question: There is no need for more gun laws but I am wondering if enforcing existing law stringently would've prevented a Cho or Loughner? Would application of existing law or even new law have been able to prevent these types of individuals from perpetrating crimes like they did?
     
  12. iusmc2002

    iusmc2002 Colville, WA Active Member

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    No. So lets ban all guns? Is that your point? Since their weapons were purchased legally.....
     
  13. SonicBlue03

    SonicBlue03 Snohomish Well-Known Member

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    The Mayans being right about the world ending next year has a higher probability of occurring than the President taking away firearms.
     
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  14. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Obama is a political realist, not an idealist, that should be painfully obvious by now. Honestly I don't think we have all that much to worry about unless some dramatic incident causes large scale public outcry - in which case he will likely feel compelled to at least pay lip service to gun control. I think Romney would likely do the same, I don't trust him one bit.
     
  15. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    So it's okay with you if Obama does it, but not Romney? :huh:
     
  16. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No idea where you are coming from on this....apparently you are reading things that aren't there. I don't care for politicians with flexible principles period.
     
  17. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Ron Paul
     
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    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    You mean like "Gun Walker"? That wasn't lip service it was a planned underhanded attack by the Obama administration on our gun rights by creating a problem that would require "fixing", the fix would have been to take more rights from gun owners.

    Any gun owner that would vote for this clown a second time is not a critical thinker but a partisan dupe.
     
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  19. locobob

    locobob Beaverton, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    #1 I didn't vote for him.
    #2 I think its a little premature to implicate Obama in the "gunwalker" fiasco or to proclaim it a part of some vast conspiracy. The BATF has been out of control for years, even under Republican administrations.
    #3 I do find Ron Paul to be one of, or perhaps even the most sincere of the candidates. I just think he goes a little too far with pushing individualism as the answer to everything, there are many things I think are most efficiently accomplished collectively.
     
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  20. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    No, that wasn't my point. Are you being obtuse on purpose? How could I be a gun owner and want to ban them???? That absolutely makes no sense.

    Yes, the guns that they bought were done legally. The point of my question was just as I asked it before: would enforcement of existing law or changes in law to help keep guns out of he hands of individuals who showed serious mental health issues? I don't know and that's why I asked the question. Aside from trying to address that issue I see no reason for any more gun laws/restrictions.