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It's America. Not everyone is going to have the same beliefs as you.

Not on gender, religion, abortion, or guns and the list can go on and on.

Now in an ideal world (which is a fantasy/not reality) people would believe as they wish and would not try to force their opinions and view points on others. They would just live and let others live as they so choose……. That goes for all Americans not just your so called "gun grabbers."
Most of what we think of as "Liberals" in the Pacific Northwest are actually Leftists. They are NOT okay to let people believe as they wish. Lefitists have a very specific set of beliefs, and a clearly defined stance on gender, religion, abortion, and guns (among other things).

I think Portland was still liberal in the mid-90s but not anymore. Liberal is just another word that means something else now, like Progressive.

The only people I know that demand everyone else do and believe what they think are liberals. This subject goes deeper than just guns, its spans everything between mandatory vaccines and endless social ideologies being worked into law and public education. And if you don't agree your a....
They won't leave people alone and this my problem with them as well.
 
Well they aren't going to stop….. and complaining about it online does absolutely nothing.

The best thing to do is just live your life. Evaluate risks and know what you're willing to do/not do personally. At the same time acknowledging the potential consequences for your actions.

This "leftist" mindset will never cease. Hence the reason I give it zero attention.
 
This is a very complex issue, I don't think one can define it or break it down into simple numbers or terms or beliefs anymore!

This country is divided so deeply that there is nothing that can fill the gap between the two or more halves!

Lots of folks don't know anything about firearms, they are gullible and believe what the leftist media tells them, those same folks generally live their lives in a shell, never seeking information outside what is presented to them on the telly!

There are also ultra leftist zealots who believe nobody should own guns for any reason, these folks live in a vacuum under their own very narrow beliefs, usually self centered around their own personal position in society, and they don't care about anyone but themselves.

There are also the victim's, those who cannot accept any measure of responsibility for themselves, they demand hand outs and free stuff, they sit around waiting for sh!t to fall from the sky, and are very bitter about everything and everyone else who has more then then!

There are those who are racists, they cannot accept any other race except their own, they blame everyone else for their own failings, believe everyone owes them something, and that it's everyone else's fault they are oppressed!

There are those who use religion as a path through life, they believe prayers will be answered and that their God will provide, protect, and keep them safe! These folks operate inside their own bubbles, where if they only believe hard enough, God will provide, and they use their religion against others, believing themselves morally superior to everyone else!

None of these groups believe in self defense, they believe the police and government will protect them, they believed in the utopian dream world where everyone is happy, everyone is equal, crime doesn't exist, so Boone needs a weapon of any kind! These people have zero experience with reality, and it shows when they speak!
 
The 2A community can't even be on the same page (between recreation, hunting, fudds, tacticool operators, etc.)

Do we really expect America to be?

This country as a whole has lost its direction. The morals, ethics, and standards have been eroded. Eventually it will fall. Sadly.
 
In light of the recent onslaught of blatantly unconstitutional laws being proposed and/or passed across the nation, has anyone considered that the anti-2A types are in full panic mode and are throwing everything they can think of against the wall to see what sticks?

Exactly
They will put in unconstitutional crap to buy time because they know that the court cases will take years to resolve. Just like Turd and the idiot Inslee's latest "Assault Weapon" Ban
California's AW ban is heading for the ash heap but the Dipstick Duo here are still going to run their game because they can ask for continuances etc. and drag out the course of the lawsuits here in Washington, meanwhile their laws would stay in effect. Hopefully we can get a judge to throw up a stay on any laws before they go into effect, but if we don't we all have to live under their crappy laws until we get them overturned. To wit. California's Assault Weapon ban has been in the courts for over TWENTY years.

That's their game. Buy time till a liberal Supreme court will uphold their laws
 
Exactly
They will put in unconstitutional crap to buy time because they know that the court cases will take years to resolve. Just like Turd and the idiot Inslee's latest "Assault Weapon" Ban
California's AW ban is heading for the ash heap but the Dipstick Duo here are still going to run their game because they can ask for continuances etc. and drag out the course of the lawsuits here in Washington, meanwhile their laws would stay in effect. Hopefully we can get a judge to throw up a stay on any laws before they go into effect, but if we don't we all have to live under their crappy laws until we get them overturned. To wit. California's Assault Weapon ban has been in the courts for over TWENTY years.

That's their game. Buy time till a liberal Supreme court will uphold their laws
^^^^^ This! They are taking the long game, and expect to control the courts at all levels in the future. A liberal court will declare:
Black is White
Day is Night
Wrong is Right
 
They paint us as Anti Democracy and radical extremists.
Man ain't this the truth!

My ultra liberal cousin (I have mentioned before) used to throw that out ALL the time - IE how conservatives, repubs etc. are against democracy and everything that goes with it.

He never missed a chance to 'use' this to describe some liberal or democratic action (when I was still talking to him)
 
Awwwww.......Come on man.......
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Aloha, Mark
 
A lot of people are anti-gun until reality hits them in the face. When COVID first kicked off I had a lot of formerly anti-gun people suddenly asking "can I borrow a gun?" I ended up helping half of my family members get armed and trained for the first time. Guess who's side they're on now?

Gun control might make sense to someone if they assume everyone plays by the rules and society remains relatively cohesive. As soon as normalcy is replaced by lawlessness (or fear of lawlessness), the self-preservation instinct kicks in and people realize they are responsibile for their own wellbeing in ALL scenarios, not just the idyllic ones. I suspect we are seeing such a 2A resurgence because the COVID scare mixed with the protests and chaos we saw in major cities where the police were told to not intervene demonstrated just how fragile and tenuous our grasp on normalcy truly is.
 
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The only people I know that generally don't care what others do or believe are conservatives. The only people I know that demand everyone else do and believe what they think are liberals.
Is that a joke? The only actual people who fit that ideal are libertarians.

Conservatives love to push their ideologies, judgements and beliefs onto everyone else:
abortion, religion, drug use, prostitution, gambling, marriage, video games, porn, sex shops, strip clubs - the list of things conservatives wish to outlaw and ban for everyone else is never ending. Stay out of my personal life and entertainment, I'll stay out of yours... aka FREEDOM. ;)
 

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