Gun control: Wyden backs bill expanding background checks

[Stomper]

Since he lives in New York in his sugar mommies (inherited wealth)purchased house, makes his trips to Oregon a couple times a year, and probably has some strawman address, so he probably does pay taxes.

F him right in the nose.

And out his ear hole....

 

[Mark W.]

A friend likens it to the school marm mentality. Since you don't know who shot the spit wad, just punish EVERYONE by making them put their head on the desk. Solves nothing but irritates everyone! Maybe it's time to be a little more aggressive about being punished for the crimes we DIDN'T commit? Not sure what form that should take but certainly NOT re-electing the same turds would be a good start.

So they want us to kick the bubblegum of the guy who miss uses a firearm like we would have for the idiot with the spit ball. As soon as they got out to recess?

 

[Ownerus]

Yeah, the analogy is a little weak when it gets to the motivation. The LAST thing they want is for us to do that. Better no order at all than for us to commit the ultimate evil of "taking the law into our own hands". We'd start to discover how little we need them. Can't have that.

 

[Argonaut]

Wow. It's amazing how fast these guys can lose their position based on screwing around with my rights. I read this, and now I will never vote for the guy again. What's he even thinking? The bill would never pass the senate anyways! Why lose the votes, then?


Gun control: Wyden backs bill expanding background checks
Gun control: Wyden backs bill expanding background checks
Gun control: Wyden backs bill expanding background checks

There are some bad republicans but all Democrats are evil. Every one of them will vote to pick your pocket and limit your freedoms. I remember my grandmother (born in 1902) telling me that 60 years ago (specifically talking about FDR). Do some homework.......the Democratic Party was based out of the confederate movement in the south, does the little issue of slavery come to mind? The first Republican President was Abraham Lincoln. Look for a good libertarian leaning republican (sometimes hard to find) and give them all the support you can. It is our only chance to preserve our paycheck, gun rights and liberties.

 

[Argonaut]

We attended a meeting with the sheriffs of Malheur (Oregon), Washington (Idaho) , Payette (idaho) and Adams(Idaho) counties a couple of years ago specifically about gun rights. All 4 of them pledged to not enforce and prevent enforcement of any law they believe runs against the 2nd amendment. As the only elected law enforcement in any area they have ultimate authority. Even the feds have to get permission from them to operate in there jurisdictions. (We have enforced that law many times here in Idaho) these are the kind of guys that deserve our support (what does your Sheriff think?). We have to be vigilant about the people that represent us down to the lowest level, not just the federal level representatives. The election a year ago was a tremendous victory for individual and gun rights. The Presidents sons are huge shooters, hunters and outdoorsmen frequenting Idaho. I am sure they got that from there father. It looks like we got one decent new Supreme Court appointment, we should get 2 more and with some luck another one or two. That alone can change the course of our nation in untold ways over the next 50 years while insuring our liberties. We are the guys responsible to see that is done. Lots of Oregon guys on here......did you know that your esteemed Governor Brown had to approve the use of deadly force in the standoff ar Burns. The Sheriff did not. That is why they didn't have any deputies involved, only the Highway patrol and feds (I think the shooting was actually out of the county). My Sheriff (and friend) explained it to me.

 

[Ownerus]

Yeah, the Democrats are fighting for us!
They won't rest until all of America is as prosperous as Detroit and as safe as Chicago.

 

[The Heretic]

I like Wyden - he opposed some of the things Obama did regarding the Patriot Act. He really does try to do what he thinks is right and not just because it is what his party wants.

But he is the typical liberal when it comes to guns.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Meanwhile, truckers and factory workers are subjected to mandatory drug testing.. but not ol' Wyden nor the millions of union teachers/government class..
gotta be smoking the good stuff

 

[nammac]

Yeah, the Democrats are fighting for us!
They won't rest until all of America is as prosperous as Detroit and as safe as Chicago.

Or as well funded as Flint...

Yea, they're from the government and there here to help

 

[Ownerus]

I like Wyden - he opposed some of the things Obama did regarding the Patriot Act. He really does try to do what he thinks is right and not just because it is what his party wants.

But he is the typical liberal when it comes to guns.

I think that falls into the "even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then" category.
Doing what HE thinks (or more likely "feels") is right isn't good if his values aren't good.

 

[Argonaut]

I like Wyden - he opposed some of the things Obama did regarding the Patriot Act. He really does try to do what he thinks is right and not just because it is what his party wants.

But he is the typical liberal when it comes to guns.

He gets a 0% rating from the NRA and a 100% from the Brady people. 100% from Unions, 100% on government spending 100% on anything related to abortion. 100% from the ALCU, one of the most liberal overall in the Senate, He has never held a job outside academia or the government. Sounds like a guy that you want to have a beer with?

 

[The Heretic]

I think that falls into the "even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then" category.
Doing what HE thinks (or more likely "feels") is right isn't good if his values aren't good.

I agree with him on some things, not on others. Unlike other politicians, he does not just blindly follow the party line and he seems to has some ethics, and tries to think about what is the best course. That is a LOT more than what most politicians can say.

 

[NoLimePlease]

I agree with him on some things, not on others. Unlike other politicians, he does not just blindly follow the party line and he seems to has some ethics, and tries to think about what is the best course. That is a LOT more than what most politicians can say.

That is the same way I have always felt about him. I've been doing some reading after this post, and found that I have missed his staunch anti-gun policy stance.
I really wish they would all just stop trying to screw with those rights, so we can all focus on issues that are lawful and productive, and not detrimental to what makes this country the great place that it is.

 

[Argonaut]

I agree with him on some things, not on others. Unlike other politicians, he does not just blindly follow the party line and he seems to has some ethics, and tries to think about what is the best course. That is a LOT more than what most politicians can say.

You are not looking at his votes........he votes party line 98% of the time. Deffinatly not an independent. You guys really need to get rid of him. Compare his record to my buddy Jim Risch's. They are exactly 180% out. Wyden will pick your pockets, kill babies and take your guns. (Just to name a few issues) He has voted many times on each issue to prove it. I don't know him at all but 20 min looking at his actual voting record shows that. I am sure he is affable and preaches to whatever crowd he is with.....but you have to look at his votes. That is where the rubber meets the road.

 

[Argonaut]

That is the same way I have always felt about him. I've been doing some reading after this post, and found that I have missed his staunch anti-gun policy stance.
I really wish they would all just stop trying to screw with those rights, so we can all focus on issues that are lawful and productive, and not detrimental to what makes this country the great place that it is.

How about taking your property (or rights) because of sage grouse habitat conservation, or confiscating over 50% of your earned income to pay for social programs for people that refuse to take care of themselves? All that is OK? The federal government has basic responsibilities laid out in the constitution, common Defence, interstate and international trade and treaties, and providing the freedoms that allow each of us to be the best we can be. Everything else is left to the states. There have been turning points in our history where we had huge debates about if things like the FBI, BLM, federal land ownership, all sorts of things we take for granted are constitutional. Most have never been tested in a serious court challenge. The anti gun crowd is even afraid to have the Supreme Court interpret the 2nd amendment. There is a very good chance they would through out all the gun laws written since the big one in 1928.

 

[NoLimePlease]

You are not looking at his votes........he votes party line 98% of the time.

Could anyone on this thread suggest a non-biased source to identify policy stance and voting records, as well as notable acts? Without knowing all the history or devoting my life to politics and media, I would love to be in the know a bit better next time I fill the little ovals completely in #2 pencil.

 

[Argonaut]

I need to get off my horse........but we have to stop being too polite or accepting to confront things and people we think are wrong. It is really easy to just be quiet (remember the silent majority?) and not be confrontive in a conversation we disagree with. That is how the bad guys win. I am not an overly religious person but the idea that when the devil confronts us...he won't seem evil rings true to me. on the contrary, he will be as smooth as the best operator anyone can imagine. The bravest best leaders confront issues openly and directly. Not in some political speak that uses a lot of words and commits to nothing. We do have to choose our issues (and The Hill you are willing to die on) but we need to be bold. It is infectious and you will be amazed at the number of people that feel the same way you do (and will join your efforts)

 

[CoastRange57]

Wyden is a career politician, a socialist who along with cabal of Merkley, and Blumenhauer will make sure that Oregon remains a liberal bastion of tax and spend thinking. Oregon's one lone conservative and Republican, Greg Walden is fast approaching RINO status in my opinion. I have followed him on Facebook and he carefully chooses and supports non conflicting topics and issues, most likely to appease the growing number of RINO residents in Bend, and to artfully dodge conflict. He is a 2A supporter, so for that reason alone he should stay. You could turn on about every issue in the book and still support 2A and I will stay with you just for that.

The chances of Oregon turning out the liberal junta anytime soon is very slim as there are many heir apparent drones waiting in the wings to pickup the flag of liberalism and pander to the existing electorate and all the incoming CA and other transplant who see utopia in politics in Oregon.

What other job exists where these azz clowns can make that kind of money and get perks and benefits the working class could only dream of. True ruling class status, and the electorate is too stupid to realize it because the puppets are saying the things they want to hear.

 

[3MTA3]

Wyden is a career politician, a socialist who along with cabal of Merkley, and Blumenhauer will make sure that Oregon remains a liberal bastion of tax and spend thinking. Oregon's one lone conservative and Republican, Greg Walden is fast approaching RINO status in my opinion. I have followed him on Facebook and he carefully chooses and supports non conflicting topics and issues, most likely to appease the growing number of RINO residents in Bend, and to artfully dodge conflict. He is a 2A supporter, so for that reason alone he should stay. You could turn on about every issue in the book and still support 2A and I will stay with you just for that.

The chances of Oregon turning out the liberal junta anytime soon is very slim as there are many heir apparent drones waiting in the wings to pickup the flag of liberalism and pander to the existing electorate and all the incoming CA and other transplant who see utopia in politics in Oregon.

What other job exists where these azz clowns can make that kind of money and get perks and benefits the working class could only dream of. True ruling class status, and the electorate is too stupid to realize it because the puppets are saying the things they want to hear.

Oregon won't change until they have run the companies that produce the jobs and taxes out of state. Shortly thereafter they won't be able to fund all the social programs and the house of cards collapses.

Oregon ideals:

• If you make profits you are evil
• If you use energy you are evil
• If you empower Oregon subjects to do individual (vs the collective) things like have a personal vehicle you are evil
• If you eat meat you are evil. Don't even talk about murdering defenseless animals in order to eat them.

 

[Argonaut]

Could anyone on this thread suggest a non-biased source to identify policy stance and voting records, as well as notable acts? Without knowing all the history or devoting my life to politics and media, I would love to be in the know a bit better next time I fill the little ovals completely in #2 pencil.

I was just on a site that came off from Google rating the voting records off all the congressmen. It seems to be unbiased and non partisan. Thousands o

Oregon won't change until they have run the companies that produce the jobs and taxes out of state. Shortly thereafter they won't be able to fund all the social programs and the house of cards collapses.

Oregon ideals:

• If you make profits you are evil
• If you use energy you are evil
• If you empower Oregon subjects to do individual (vs the collective) things like have a personal vehicle you are evil
• If you eat meat you are evil. Don't even talk about murdering defenseless animals in order to eat them.

That is exactly what is happening in California. They will get an employment bump from the fires but when that is over they will continue there slide into obscurity. Washington and Oregon are not far behind.