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Gun control: Judge throws out residents' lawsuit challenging Multnomah County ordinance

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by djaziatic, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. djaziatic

    djaziatic Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Totally not surprised by this ruling. I'd be surprised if you could find a judge within Multnomah county that would allow this to go forward.
     
  3. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Time to invoke Heller and McDonald.
     
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  4. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Kelly House | khouse@oregonian.com 42 minutes ago
    @tonyspdx Yes. Although the judge did not rule on that issue (she simply said these plaintiffs are unqualified to bring forth this lawsuit), so its legal merits have yet to be tested.
     
  5. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    This went exactly like I said it was going to go. The law will only be able to be challenged when the case is brought forward by someone that has been damaged by the law.
     
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    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    How about the parents of the kid that shot up the school in Gresham. Have we heard what charges they will face under current Multnomah County law, considering they allowed a gun into his hands? They may be just the kind of case that could be used to challenge this law.
     
  7. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I doubt it. The judge would find they would be in similar jeopardy with or without the statute based on other laws. The person charged will have to commit no other crime besides violating that particular ordinance.
     
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    tiggers97 United States Well-Known Member

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    At least the judge ruled that cities do not have to be sub-servant to the county. I wonder how many city boards will cast a vote to tell the county to pound sand.
     
  9. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It indicates to me that the county is worried that if there was a lawsuit or defense that went forward on this issue, that they would be in danger of losing.

    Therefore it sounds to me like a law that they would be afraid of enforcing on its own because they might lose.
     
  10. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Doesn't Oregon have State-level preemption?
     
  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yes we do - but Multnomah county and Port of Portland (PDX) have passed laws that are in conflict with that pre-emption clause. Various people are trying to challenge various laws on this basis and for the most part they (the municipality) don't want it to go to court.

    But municipalities can control certain things, like shooting inside city limits, some forms of open carry and so on.
     
  12. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Like Chee-to said, nothing has been decided, except that the plaintiffs had no standing to sue.
     
  13. Who The F R U

    Who The F R U Rainier Oregon Well-Known Member

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    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    So as i understand legal standing, If one of the plaintiffs had been attacked or some way harmed in the county where their firearm would have prevented the problem then they would have legal standing. Am i reading that correctly? Isn't that backwards. Is the judge who made the decision a complete tool or does she, like Obama hate Liberty.
     
  15. balaperdida

    balaperdida eastern idaho Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the responses. Convoluted, isn't it?
     
  16. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A similar issue will come up again eventually.
     
  17. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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