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Gun and ammo budget out the window

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by PiratePast40, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Just got the news that my health insurance is going from $560 a month to $910 a month. And that's with a $3000 deductible PLUS a 30% co-pay. Thanks Obama. Now I can't even hope to keep the change!
  2. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Why the gov decided to get into the ins business is beyond me.
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  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I'm going to a$$-u-me that's sarcasm, otherwise we're going to have to kick you square in the jimmy.

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  4. filsonhand

    filsonhand In the Silicon Forest Smooth as a Rhino 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Well.....considering its the only business that can fail at everything and still continue to run :confused: Why wouldn't they want a bigger piece of the money we make :eek:
    We can all be good little socialists :mad:
  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Bottom line is-

    Short-term: "big insurance" greased the poli's pockets so they could have a "captive market" and bend everyone over... crony capitalism at its finest. o_O

    Long-term: the socialist friks in government want TOTAL control over everyone and there's fewer "levers" better than a person's healthcare, so they sold the rope to the "capitalist" they plan to hang them with... in the end. :rolleyes:
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  6. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Can you spell C_O_N_T_R_O_L???????

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  7. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    The ACA was shystered through with "reconciliation", and NOT the customary legislative process. Harry Reid is as slimy as they get, don't forget the he also pulled the "nuclear option" to get by the 60 vote requirement on the Senate.
  8. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

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    Unless you have serious medical conditions, pay as you go. Set up a health expense account for when you do need to see the doctor.
    I know a few people who are going this route. They don't pay the penalty either, as the penalty can only be accessed to your refund. Their taxes have been set up to get little, to no refund at the end of the year. The IRS will hold back the amount of the fee from any future tax refunds. There are no liens, levies, or criminal penalties for failing to pay the fee. Live free not enslaved.
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  9. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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  10. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Don't forget what Justice Kennedy said, YOU ELECTED HIM.
    How many years of college did it take for a Supreme Court Justice to become that derelict in his duty to the Constitution that he's suppose to be representing and protecting ?
  11. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    F obamacare. It's robbery of the people. Only people it helps is the people trying to destroy what America is.
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  12. Wayne

    Wayne Near Tacoma Active Member

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    But wait ! Obama told us we would save 2500 $ a year so you must be wrong.o_O
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  13. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Thats the route I ended up taking.
  14. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Time to quit your job so the other 51% can pay your bills.

    Idiots didn't realize and still don't realize that "health insurance" does NOT equal "health care".

    On top of the now 6 week wait to see my doctor from before when it was same week appointments.

    Yup, go on the government dole and get free care, subsidies, tax credits, food stamps.

    Then anything you earn off the record will allow you to spend that on your new TV, guns, ammo etc.
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  15. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Silver Supporter

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    They thought cash for clunkers was a good idea too.
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  16. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    My thread would have been
    Don't go to the doctor or need insurance,what should my next gun be?
    I haven;t gone to a doctor but for a employment exam or maybe a CDL exam in about 20 years
    All they do is tell you something is wrong and take these pills
  17. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Hey, easy with the name calling Bub....:D:D:D:p
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  18. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly what I am going to do. I am retiring at the end of the year. Grabbing my survivor's social security benefits (it is a scandal that the approximately 200,000 my husband paid into social security would be gone if I did not claim the benefit) and just signed up for Obamacare today. I was notified last week my current policy (which has a high deductible) was going up from $470 to $635 in January. Now
    I will be paying $293 for the same policy.

    I am tired of paying taxes through the nose and getting nothing for my money. Now I will. I think all the makers should become takers and let's see how the socialists deal with that.

    I don't see it so much as getting on the dole as I do getting something out of all the taxes I've paid over the years.
  19. Charliehorse

    Charliehorse Cascade Mts - State of Jefferson USA Well-Known Member

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    lol That's like living in the PNW and saying you don't need fire insurance on your home.
    Only fools believe that, or those in the "if you ain't got nothin you ain't got nothin to lose" crowd.
    Or those in the "leach" group that runs to ER for every little thing, running up the cost for all of us. My friend is like that. Took her adult daughter to ER for a sore throat at 10pm rather than going to a walk in clinic before 5. Same with her husband when he sprained his knee. Rough & tough farmer couldn't wait till the next morning when the clinic was open. American Users passing the cost on to someone else (all of us).

    Health is unpredictable. Accidents happen. So does illness. I have worked all my life to live my dream & build my asset base. Lived healthy - clean air & water, no drugs no cigs - to be the 1st centenarian in my family. Good longevity.
    I'm now 6 1/2 yrs into fighting rare thymic cancer since 53. Misdiagnosed the first 3 as 'arthritis pain'. Just crossed the million dollar mark in (gross) medical bills since 1.2012. My cost? Medical insurance.
    I still have my savings, my home in the mountains, my horses, all of which have been an incredible boost to my healing. And I'm receiving the best care.
    Without insurance, I would have lost everything by now and be sleeping in a cardboard box under the bridge. Talk about unhealthy life threatening stress...

    HSA's are good, but you still need at least Catastrophic coverage.
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  20. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    One of the dirty secrets is the SS system is COUNTING on people not living long enough to claim their benefits.
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