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Grants Pass man with sniper book held without bail

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by pokerace, Nov 1, 2011.

  1. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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  2. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    being a drug user and having a loaded pistol on school grounds; thats IT. clearly the prosecutors are trying to throw a giant book at him and use this as further "evidence of the need" for an Orwellian system where having bad thoughts and banned literature as well as a collection of "evil weapons" are grounds for arrest and prosecuting.
     
  3. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Thought crime is doubleplus ungood.
     
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  4. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    This happened in another county. Grants Pass is in Josephine County. Medford has the closest federal courthouse.
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    DUI

    Loaded weapon on School gounds while in possession of drugs A history of shooting at people (remember some pellet rifles are as fast as std velocity .22's) And I would say this is just the kind of guy that should be looked at.

    And what is happening is he is being held without bail on a Federal Weapons Charge not running a stop sign on the way to work.

    I got no problem with the COURTS holding him over. The Medford cops didn't hold him over without bail the Courts did you know the place that is supposed to make this type of decision to try to protect the rest of us.
     
  6. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    your RIGHT
     
  7. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    When you look at the whole story any sane person would see that this guy needs to be locked up. No 2nd amendment issue here.
     
  8. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    No doubt this Amoroso guy is a troubled soul, who exercised very poor judgement, breaking two federal laws (one of them dubious) in top of the drunken driving. The charges will elicit very little sympathy. But the planning of a sniper attack seems quite a stretch to justify denying the man's right to bail. I hope he gets a very good lawyer. And help.
     
  9. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    if he has a history of mental illness; or a history of violence (some may argue that the fact he shot at a boat with tourists at 15 condemns him); then by all means lock him up. but looking at the story; he's been nonviolent for the last 11 years; and able to be self-employed as a landscaper, and is NOT a convicted felon, because of the juvenile record he had which goes away at 18 last I knew,... yeah he did something stupid, bringing a loaded pistol on school grounds, being high and drunk.....but....he did NOT follow through, and did not seem to seriously consider following through with the "plot", in fact, he was LEAVING the school grounds when they busted him. It does not seem to tell whether or not he CONSENTED to the police's search of his car....I don;t know what law says that anyone suspected of a DUI automatically forfeits the right to deny the police the permission to search their property..I also hope he got a good lawyer for this as well...I don;t see why he needs to be held without bail; especially if he was just being stupid and realized he was gonna be worse off if he did :"follow through" his "plot" if any.
     
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    saxon springfield Active Member

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    ++ good
    gee if reading books means you might commit a future crime??
    tie that in with guns and some bad choice's made as a youth
    yes yes let us throw him in jail , make him pay for what he might have done,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    sorry am i still in america? constitution and bill of rights any one?
     
  11. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    I read the story again and same conclusion. This guy meets all the criteria for LOCK ME UP. Of course you could wait until he kills someone at the school and then look at his history and say well maybe we could have seen this coming but he hadn't been violent for a few years and was a landscaper. I think DWI is going to get your car searched anywhere and he did have a firearm on school grounds. A reasonable person could believe he is a danger and at the least needs to be locked up for awhile for being stupid.
     
  12. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Being stupid is a crime? Then you should be locked up for being stupid on matters of civil liberty.

    The only danger I see are out-of-control cops and paranoid tax parasites getting off by bullying people who offend them.
     
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  13. HollisOR

    HollisOR Rural OR, South of Dallas Active Member

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    The title is so far off, I guess KGW is in a hurt for readership or who ever wrote this piece can not read.

     
  14. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    sensationalism sells; would we even comment on the story if KGW had writ "Grants Pass drug user arrested for drunken driving and poss of firearms on school property"?
     
  15. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Correct headline: Cops arrests man for violating unconstitutional, unlawful statutes.
     
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  16. CamoDeafie

    CamoDeafie Albany Well-Known Member

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    for a pro-2A.pro-liberty publication, sure. for a clearly liberal/biased media...who was it that pushed for the gun-free zones, and who was it that pointed to the school shootings as the REASON schools have to be gun free zones, and declared guns to be always evil and NEVER print stories about people using guns for self defense, and painted the armed open-carry guys as being vigilantes and crazy gun-fetishists who should be arrested, or kept out of society?
     
  17. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    Come on people, look at the charges. If you think that driving drunk and possesing firearms on school grounds is ok then keep on sticking up for this guy. That is the charge. The rest of the story is just newspaper bling and is interesting but probably won't matter in convicting him of the charges.
     
  18. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I think both of those are okay.
     
  19. TCOV

    TCOV OLYMPIC PENINSULA Active Member

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    Well redcap I'm glad I don't live near you. You think that it is ok for a drunk, illegal drug user with a history of violent crime to possess firearms on school grounds. I'm all for getting your rights back for past transgretions but this guy doesn't seem to have changed his ways.
     
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  20. Buddhalux

    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    Well if we're locking up "potential" threats then I want very mexican and muslim locked up since we have an MS-13 and terrorist problem here in the US.
     
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