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Got a response from Congressman Reichert on National Reciprocity

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by rshoemaker, May 10, 2011.

  1. rshoemaker

    rshoemaker Downtown Seattle New Member

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    My original email was simply asking him to support and endorse the national Reciprocity resolution (HR822) Here is his response.

     
  2. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Seems like he didn't answer the question of whether he supports it or not, just like a dang politician. You will have to wait and see how he votes to find out if this "respect" of the 2nd amendment is just hot air. Good luck.
     
  3. caden08

    caden08 washougal Member

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    That's funny I got two open end emails from my congresswoman and representative when I voiced
    My opinion on the hi cap mag ban going threw congress... Unfortunately I already know where her vote lands but every voice counts. :p
     
  4. U201494

    U201494 Well-Known Member

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    What the ****?!! I thought Ted Kennedy was dead. Looks like he's alive and living in the evergreen state.
    Good answer.
    "I believe in bull bubblegum and horse bubblegum, and feel strongly about sheep bubblegum. I also believe in donkey bubblegum when it sticks to the roof of my mouth."
    Yeah, politician!
     
  5. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    The proposed reciprocity law violates the constitution big time. If it's passed it will be struck down on tenth amendment grounds the same way the brady bill was.

    As much as I like the idea of national reciprocity, forcing states to do it is flat unconstitutional. The feds can't do this.
     
  6. enjr4

    enjr4 Renton, WA Active Member

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    Personally, I don't want the Feds involved in anything that doesn't affect foreign policy or defense. They are only group that can consistently screwup an Iron ball with a wad of cotton.
     
  7. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    Sure takes those people in congress a lot of words to say nothing.
     
  8. RB87

    RB87 Oregon Active Member

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    Its a nice idea but yeah I think it violates the 10th ammendment, not that its stopped Congress before. If that could pass muster, then Sen. Boxer's "Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011" aka bill S.176 which wants to mandate permit requirements across all states could too. Keep the Fed out of it because odds are they'd make things worse than they already are.
     
  9. rshoemaker

    rshoemaker Downtown Seattle New Member

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    If it violates the 10th amendment then is reciprocal drivers licenses also a violation?
     
  10. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    No, because the federal government doesn't require states to have reciprocity.
     
  11. Jerry

    Jerry Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    US Constitution
    Article IV Section 1
    "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State tothe public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved and the Effect thereof."
     
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  12. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

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    You need to read up on full faith and credit. It doesn't' apply to licenses and never has. It applies to business contracts, judgements by courts in other states (i.e. if you're sued in Montana and move to Washington, you don't' have to be sued all over again in Washington, the judgement stands) and warrants for arrest.

    I know it seems like this applies but it doesn't, and no, this isn't a recent development.
     
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    simpleguy Clackamas Active Member

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    I am pretty sure someone teaches a class for freshman congressclowns on how to say a lot of stuff an not answer a question.
     
  14. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    He probably put a watch on ole rshoemaker for even asking a dumb question like that.

    Reichert's real response would go something like "What is your address so zee troops can come and confiscate your guns?"
    I don't believe he's much for the public even having guns.
     
  15. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    I'd guess if Congressman Reichert would support the National Reciprocity Act he'd be one of it's co-sponsors. Could not find him in this list.

    By the way, Oregon Representatives DeFacio, Schrader and Walden are on the list.

    Co-sponsors count as of 8/29/11: 242
     
  16. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The congresscritter's response included this unfortunate line:

    Not quite Sparky, it is a natural RIGHT and not a suggestion or something we need a government's permission to have
     
  17. rshoemaker

    rshoemaker Downtown Seattle New Member

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    Wow I have not been on here in a while, I moved to the PRK in june. I should get back on here every once in a while.
     
  18. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Surprised that many OR reps support this.

    That's why it's part of the Bill of Rights. Too bad a lot of Congress can't figure that out.
     
  19. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    C'mon guys, we can't have it both ways. One of the best things happening in this country right now is that some states are pushing back at the feds, claiming states' rights and 10th amendment. Look at Arizona over illegal immigration, and Montana over guns made wholly there, and the recent court ruling that the feds can't force anyone to buy health insurance.

    I don't think the feds have any constitutional right to tell any state what it can or can't do with it's gun laws, beyond having the SC rule that 2A is the law as they did in DC.

    Now, if the SC was to rule that no state can infringe on a person's right to keep and bear, that would be great, but I want congress to keep it's nose out of states' business.

    If you carefully read the letter from the congressman, that's essentially what he's saying. He said:

    "Opponents of this bill argue it should be up to each individual state to set their own laws and eligibility requirements and not in the hands of the federal government. Opponents also contend the bill would force states to allow a person to carry concealed weapons even if he or she would be banned from possessing firearms under state law – thus the bill allows the weaker laws of one state to nullify the restrictions on concealed carry in other states."

    And

    "I believe Congress has a responsibility to ensure that legislation holds up to Constitutional scrutiny..."
     
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  20. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    OH What about the health care bill????