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Good example of staying calm

Discussion in 'Defensive Carry & Self Defense' started by AMT, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. AMT

    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Good example of staying calm in a bad situation. Probably practiced drawing from concealed as that was pretty smooth too.

    *Side note: another reason why I carry with one in the chamber*

     
  2. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. That was ALL business.
     
  3. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    He had that figured out as soon as they walked in the door
    And I like how he drew the gun without the guy even noticing,lol
     
  4. SA Shooter

    SA Shooter Hillsboro, OR Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    He wasted no time sizing up the situation, saw that the one baddy was focused on him with obvious bad intentions and he acted quickly and decisively. Good for him.
     
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  5. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    This was either already posted or I just saw this on YouTube.

    I thought possibly he is in LE because of the way he laid the seconds guy out and then stepped on his back.

    I'd like to handle the situation almost or as well but I don't think I would be in a place after having just shot both of them to keep calm enough to hold one down with my boot(more like boot to the head possibly if he struggled).
     
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  6. CHLChris

    CHLChris Portland Metro East Love me some guns! Bronze Supporter

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    The only criticism is this:

    Did you all notice how long he ignored the baddy on the floor after he shot him? It seems that this could have easily turned into a good guy getting shot in the back by a threat "assumed" to be down.

    Good thing: Support hand on the perp, so would NOT have been able to rack the slide to load a round. Carrying hot is the ONLY way to go!
     
  7. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I don't think I would have dropped one of the bad guys pistols on the floor that I had just picked up and then put one of them on the ground right next to it.
    But I have the luxury of playing armchair good guy in the comfort of my home.
     
  8. SA Shooter

    SA Shooter Hillsboro, OR Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    The bad guy he got first was sort of ignored but I think the guy pretty much knew he wasn't much of a threat based on bullet placement.
     
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  9. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    First guy was plugged a few times and obviously out of the fight when he went to the ground.

    I can only assume someone who handled the situation the way he did was staying aware of the first guy he hit.
     
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  10. CHLChris

    CHLChris Portland Metro East Love me some guns! Bronze Supporter

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    Anybody know the end of the story? Shot baddy: did he survive? Subdued baddy: did he go to jail? Good guy: did he suffer any ill effects, legally?
     
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  11. decklin

    decklin WA Well-Known Member

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    He did a great job. I think the placement of the confiscated firearm was accidental. Or rather the criminal placement was accidental. I believe the Citizen intended to prone him out parallel to the counter.
    Criminal was freaked out by his buddy going down. He was all ears at that point. When criminal heard Citizen say, "on the floor now!"
    He just went, "ok."
    I'm guessing the Citizen just went with it.

    Seriously though, what a good job!
     
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  12. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    He knew exactly what was going on with the first guy.
    He needs to go to the Micdees in WA DC and show WTF is up when you play with the WRONG guy.....who actually has his SA on
    :D
     
  13. David Bowman

    David Bowman Beaverton OR Archer Defense Concepts

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    This is why bad guys don't like CC and prefer unarmed victims.

    Two things I noticed right away as an AAR/Lessons Learned

    1) Close contact shots: If the bad guy is arms length from you, they cannot avoid your muzzle, so shoot them to the floor. You have to shoot fast because otherwise, your gun can get taken. My move would have been a 5 (ish) round hammer drill moving from his chest to his face.

    2) If you choose to engage and shoot the bad guy across the room, you don't need to prone him out. Your shooting him to the floor should suffice for getting him there. I would not approach him.

    Then reload, look for more bad guys (even bungholes like those dudes have friends), check yourself for injuries and cover those two projectile backstops from a safe distance until the cops get there. If you call 911, remember to tell them what you are wearing and what you look like.

    Bad guys and Good Cigars--- Smoke 'em if you got 'em....
     
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  14. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It could have been a plastic toy gun that he took off of the second guy, and that's why he wasn't concerned about dropping it on the floor.
     
  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Oh boy,the professionals are chiming in now
    I can't "speculate" as to what I may have done cause I haven't ever had a gun pointed at me
     
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  16. Hal Jordan

    Hal Jordan Astoria Member

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    The person who posted the YouTube video thinks this happened in Brazil. It's a house of horrors in many areas down there. If you look at some of their cities using Google Street View, you can see that their houses all have steel bars on the windows and some have fences with razor wire and even what looks like electric fences.

    From a purely legal standpoint, I don't see the need to shoot the first guy five times. He went down after the first shot, so at that point the threat was eliminated. Shooting him any more than that would be just bloodthirsty, and likely to earn you some time behind bars.

    This looks like it might be the original video (cute sound effects too). It comes from a YouTube channel entitled (in Portuguese) "Police Officer Support," and the title of the video is "PM encompass THEFT AND THIEF LEADS TO WORSE." The description says "robbery attempt in cafeteria Subway Poa, customer was a policeman, and intervened in the situation by targeting the two thieves. One of them was arrested and the other died. Police uneventfully."
     
  17. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Did the guy ever get his sandwich?
     
  18. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    :D
    I bet he got his wallet back as soon as the perps were down
    And I'm guessing he won't be paying to eat there for a while
     
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  19. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    We have some guys here that seam to have it all figured out.

    Let's see how well you got it figured when the Bear is chasing ''YOU'' around the tree? ;)
     
  20. Hal Jordan

    Hal Jordan Astoria Member

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    We all hope that we would be the hero in a SHTF situation, but until the S hits our own F, we don't really know how we would react. That's why I love watching a show called Scare Tactics. They put someone into a situation that would scare the pants off of a normal person, and see how they react. Almost everyone, men and women alike, scream like little girls and try to run away. But every so often you see someone like this guy who won't back down, and just naturally turns into a hero. Those are the best episodes of all.
     
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