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Students face possible expulsion after fending off intruder with gun - CNN.com
Wow, even liberal CNN seems to be siding with the students on this one, interesting.
I think if the students are expelled the school should be sued for endangering the lives of the students and be forced to pay a huge lump of money.. Anyone else believe a lawsuit , for school security failing to protect the student is feasible?
Articles like this just piss me off about the injustice in this coutnry, especially against our kids, who are helpless and forced to be disarmed so they can be easy prey in the "gun free zones" for crazy people and criminals. If anything, I think our government and school system's unconstitutional policy is responsible for the deaths of most the students in these shootings , campus murders, rapes and robberies.
I guess Gonzaga is a private university, but if any government money was given to fund this school and its programs, as well as any public universities are receiving my tax money to pay for the school, I would say they are being funded by the citizens and have no right to impose their own regulations that circumvent the Constitution. Public Universities, especially, are not privately owned, but owned by the tax payers, so the laws of the land should decide school policy, especially in college, not a group of college board members/governing body in a room, who do not have the safety of our students as their priority, but rather fulfilling their agenda of control and regulating their subjects (the student body). We already have laws in place, a university should not be able to overstep those boundaries.. Does anyone remember when they use to barricade certain students based on skin color, religion, etc?
As I was saying, by the school failing to protect the students on school property, the school should be sued for inadequately protecting the student body. Had these students not have defended themselves with a gun, they could have been killed and who would have been responsible for their deaths? The students were assaulted and attacked by a deranged man on school property and there was no security available to protect the students. The university should be held responsible and be sued for endangering the lives of the students with faulty and/or inadequate security, as well as an insecure student housing building that leaves students vulnerable on school property.
ANd, of course, the 6-time convicted felon who is prowling the school property is not punished, instead the students are punished:
I feel like writing a letter to Gonzaga University telling them that they are criminals for putting the lives of our children in danger.. I am hoping incidents like this can be brought to the spotlight. I am happy to see a "liberal" media outlet like CNN, who is actually becoming more sane in the wake of school shootings and questioning the punishing of students for defending themselves with a firearm on School property against dangerous criminals who try to harm them.
Wow, even liberal CNN seems to be siding with the students on this one, interesting.
I think if the students are expelled the school should be sued for endangering the lives of the students and be forced to pay a huge lump of money.. Anyone else believe a lawsuit , for school security failing to protect the student is feasible?
Articles like this just piss me off about the injustice in this coutnry, especially against our kids, who are helpless and forced to be disarmed so they can be easy prey in the "gun free zones" for crazy people and criminals. If anything, I think our government and school system's unconstitutional policy is responsible for the deaths of most the students in these shootings , campus murders, rapes and robberies.
I guess Gonzaga is a private university, but if any government money was given to fund this school and its programs, as well as any public universities are receiving my tax money to pay for the school, I would say they are being funded by the citizens and have no right to impose their own regulations that circumvent the Constitution. Public Universities, especially, are not privately owned, but owned by the tax payers, so the laws of the land should decide school policy, especially in college, not a group of college board members/governing body in a room, who do not have the safety of our students as their priority, but rather fulfilling their agenda of control and regulating their subjects (the student body). We already have laws in place, a university should not be able to overstep those boundaries.. Does anyone remember when they use to barricade certain students based on skin color, religion, etc?
As I was saying, by the school failing to protect the students on school property, the school should be sued for inadequately protecting the student body. Had these students not have defended themselves with a gun, they could have been killed and who would have been responsible for their deaths? The students were assaulted and attacked by a deranged man on school property and there was no security available to protect the students. The university should be held responsible and be sued for endangering the lives of the students with faulty and/or inadequate security, as well as an insecure student housing building that leaves students vulnerable on school property.
ANd, of course, the 6-time convicted felon who is prowling the school property is not punished, instead the students are punished:
A short while after the incident, police captured the man, whom they identified as a six-time convicted felon.
At about 2 a.m., campus security officers returned to Fagan and McIntosh's apartment and confiscated a pistol and a shotgun from the apartment.
Dean Chuang, attorney for Fagan and McIntosh, said the shotgun is owned by Fagan, who uses it to hunt periodically, and it wasn't used in the incident.
He added that the pistol that was used in the incident belonged to McIntosh, and was a gift to him from his grandfather several years ago. McIntosh has a state-issued permit to carry a concealed handgun, Chuang said. In Washington state, gun owners are not required to register their weapons.
In a disciplinary board hearing on Friday, the board, made up of three faculty members and two students, found Fagan and McIntosh guilty of two infractions -- possessing weapons on school grounds and putting others in danger by the use of weapons, according to Chuang.
Chuang told CNN the students expect to hear later this week what disciplinary action will be taken by the board. Fagan and McIntosh both face suspension or expulsion. Both are seniors and have exemplary records, Chuang said.
I feel like writing a letter to Gonzaga University telling them that they are criminals for putting the lives of our children in danger.. I am hoping incidents like this can be brought to the spotlight. I am happy to see a "liberal" media outlet like CNN, who is actually becoming more sane in the wake of school shootings and questioning the punishing of students for defending themselves with a firearm on School property against dangerous criminals who try to harm them.