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Had the same problem with my Beretta M9 right after purchase. Even had a couple other people shoot it and they got the same result. In the end, it was me and now I can shoot that thing right on the bullseye.
 
Well…clearly not an issue with the locking block.
Move the dang sight and Only Carry for Defense purposes, problem solved. The only other fix is to trade it for a 1911 and be happy again.

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I read that article when it came out a few years back and have mixed feelings. I agree with him that some of the 'regions' and what causes movement there seem strange. I personally haven't identified shooters doing what is in the chart in some of the regions to cause the problem (e.g., 'wrist breaking up' for shooting high...in my experience this is almost always an aiming problem).

But when the author says, "Again, finger placement on the trigger does not affect where the bullets impact." (related to shooting left or right) I have found this statement not to be true. I've found it true with my own shooting. (Identified by video coaching btw.) Can you put too much trigger (too deep) and not shoot right? Yes, but it makes it easier to pull right, just like too little finger on the trigger can cause the gun to move left when shooting. They are not absolutes, but I have found some of the information valid.

He poo-poos low left/tightening grip saying:
I'll talk about these two slices of pie together, since they are, frankly, just about the dumbest things I've ever heard. If you watch a pro shooter, let me ask you one question: Does he or she have a loose grip or a tight grip? A pro shooter has a good grip on a gun, yes? Good grip equates to how they control it so well. But, what the pie chart says is you are gripping too tight (or tightening a loose grip). You are never going to control the gun well if you hold it loosely, so why were you doing that in the first place?​
Maybe if you are just teaching operators and pro shooters this is not an issue, but with mortals, it is a huge issue, especially with Glocks and other guns with extreme grip angles compared to 1911 et.al. Many new shooters have a grip that benefits from being tighter. Some tighten their grip when shooting (pulling the trigger) through a sympathetic response. This is easy to demonstrate with any gun, especially Glock like grips. (This is no dig on Glocks at all.) The low-left can help to diagnose a grip that can be improved.

JMHO, we come from different worlds.
 
I have heard of this before. Positive it was a Glock. Pretty sure it was shooting left. Culprit was a cracked slide. Crack was at the ejector port. Miniscule and very hard to detect without sufficient magnification. This was at least 3 years ago but it is surely somewhere out there in the ether.
 
I totally get that my incompetence is the correct answer to this question coming from a random dude in the interwebs 99% of the time. Not even mad.

With that said, I'm not the greatest…I can yip a few here and there, but I'd like to think I'm not totally incompetent when it comes to the press. Pic attached, 210 rds from the 10yd line on 8" paper.

Locking block from a known good shooter installed. Curious to see if it has any effect tomorrow.

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Can't really complain about those results.
 
My buddy had an early M&P that did the same thing as OP's Glock. It was same trigger press issue as I had on my Glocks. At least 3 inches left of the X ring at 7 yards. I shot his gun and put a single round in the X ring. I said yeah,"It's you, not the gun." He couldn't believe it. I showed him the difference in where I placed my finger on the face of the trigger, and how my finger looked when I pressed. Then he tried it the way I did it…..Success! Also, going up a size on the back strap helped too.
 
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Hello all,

New to me Glock has a POI that's 4-5" left of the POA at 15 yards. Anyone else dealt with this before? Barrel is centered in the slide, crown shows no perceptible damage, not sure where to look for the culprit but my ocd would appreciate being able to drift the rear sight back to the center.

Cheers!
Sounds to me like you have one of those über-rare "contract" Glocks, that Glock Corp sub-contracted out to Ruger's Mini-14/30 division to manufacture in order to keep up with demand.
 
Well…clearly not an issue with the locking block.
I still dont think its the gun.
But factory Glock triggers arent the best. You mentioned you customized your other Glock triggers so it makes sense you will shoot this stock one different.
One thing you could do is break the edge on the trigger bar and polish it and the connector it will help make the trigger more crisp and maybe lighter.

Johnny Glock has a good video on this, queued up to the process... but the whole video is good.

View: https://youtu.be/OhHtYfuvVbM?si=G0Gly27R0l5qCoLl&t=1147
 
I still dont think its the gun.
But factory Glock triggers arent the best. You mentioned you customized your other Glock triggers so it makes sense you will shoot this stock one different.
One thing you could do is break the edge on the trigger bar and polish it and the connector it will help make the trigger more crisp and maybe lighter.

Johnny Glock has a good video on this, queued up to the process... but the whole video is good.

View: https://youtu.be/OhHtYfuvVbM?si=G0Gly27R0l5qCoLl&t=1147
Haven't changed triggers in any of my glocks, they're all as they came from glock, but slightly different in terms of break weight. (Some with blank connectors, some with dot connectors, and the problem child with a minus connector).
 
Haven't changed triggers in any of my glocks, they're all as they came from glock, but slightly different in terms of break weight. (Some with blank connectors, some with dot connectors, and the problem child with a minus connector).
Ok technically not the trigger [shoe] itself but I may have misunderstood what you meant by "this is the only one with a factory - connector".

Stock gun, same as all my other glocks, although this is the only one with a factory "-" connector.
 

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