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Glock hazard?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by TheCleaner, Feb 5, 2012.

  1. TheCleaner

    TheCleaner LaGrande New Member

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    Was at the gun range today, talking to fellow shooter. He was shooting a Ruger Mark III, I shot my Ruger Mark I. He told me that he got his Ruger after Glock sent him a brand new gun (straight across trade) because his .40 cal Glock blew up in his hand. He also had a .357 SIG Glock blow apart. Luckily, no injury. He told me he learned that both of these calibers have or had a small unsupported case area in the chamber, so if you had any ammo with a weak case wall they can blow up the gun.
    Has anyone else heard about this occurrence? According to my new aquaintance 9mm and .45 Glocks DO NOT have the unsupported case area in the chamber, therefore they don't have any problems of this sort. Anyone had anything like this happen to them?
     
  2. MrNiceGuy

    MrNiceGuy between springfield and shelbyville Well-Known Member

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    I posted this in a previous thread. Since I dont feel like typing it all out again, you're getting a copy/paste.


     
  3. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Wow... that walther really drives the point home.

    Some Glocks have blown up. There's not a mass-produced pistol brand on earth that hasn't, at some point. Glocks are generally a HELL of a lot less likely to, though.

    And this is just me here... but I think your range buddy is making stuff up. Guys at the range seem to like to do that.
     
  4. halmbarte

    halmbarte PDX Active Member

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    I'd bet most those popped guns have one thing in common:

    Reloads.

    Aside from the obviously bulged barrels from barrel obstructions, most those look like gross overcharges or wrong powder in the case. And that pretty much only happens with reloads.

    H
     
  5. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    I am no expert but I remember when all you heard about was Glock .40 KaBooming. It was almost like no other gun in the world ever did it. Many years ago it is true that Glock barrels did not have as much case support. Now all the Glock chambers seem to have as much support as any other gun. Shooting lead bullets in Glocks (because of leading in the polygonal rifling) can have devastating results (KaBoom).
    What I don't understand is why would Glock send out a Ruger Mark III for a gun that blew up? I do like the Ruger Mark pistols but I'll keep ol G22 & G17 by my side (and with the conversion shoot .22's out of both of them).
    Good luck and stay safe,
    Mike
     
  6. BroncoFan

    BroncoFan Eastern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Glock sending a Ruger to replace because of a KaBoom? I call BS.
     
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  7. doubletap007

    doubletap007 Beaverton Active Member

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    .40 cal blow up and he said he had a .357 sig problem also with his glock?
    this caliber can be interchanged and often are in the glock with a switch of the barrel.
    sounds like this guy tried to shoot .357 sig out of his .40 cal barrel then blames it on the glock.
    lets see mosad,special forces,cops,us soldiers run thousands of rounds through the glock with no problems but some guy at the range has a blow up?sounds like operator error or bad loads.
     
  8. bruzer

    bruzer Grants Pass, OR Well-Known Member

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    After re-reading your post I might be wrong thinking Glock sent him a Ruger Mark III. Are you saying he took the brand new replacement gun from Glock and traded straight across for the Ruger Mark III?
    ???????????????????????????
    Don't know what to say about that.

    Mike
     
  9. mkwerx

    mkwerx Forest Grove, OR Well-Known Member

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    I'm less worried about a Glock KBing than I am of a newer glock having extraction and feed issues thanks to someone deciding to monkey-hump the internals that were working just fine in previous iterations of the gun (like going with the new MIM extractor vs the old forged extractor, the new ejector, and the new recoil spring assemblies). They could've simply left the guts of the guns alone and put them into the new frames with the swappable backstraps (and thus not also monkey humped the newer Gen 3 guns, since most parts are the same). But someone had to have "change" - and it seems like it wasn't for the better. Lots of folks are having issues with their new Glocks, especially the 9mm versions.

    Hickock45 has a great YouTube of a Gen 4 G-19 up, and you can see when he's shooting - the thing ejects cases randomly - some don't even make it further than the top of the slide, others eject *left*, while some fling to the right like they were launched out of a canon. The older Gen 3 and Gen 2 Glocks I've had always had pretty normal ejection - sending cases about 4 feet behind me off to my right, except when the recoil springs got weak.


    And from the pictures - holy crap - what kind of load does it take to blow up a Blackhawk? Ruger's revolvers are about the strongest frames you can get - and to see one blown apart like that is downright scary.
     
  10. nitestocker

    nitestocker woodland washington Well-Known Member

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    not 357 out of a forty probably 40 out of the 357 barrel or reloads most likely
     
  11. U201494

    U201494 Well-Known Member

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    See post #7 here: http://www.northwestfirearms.com/handgun-discussion/80368-gun-prices.html

    and

    slight breach of etiquette on your part for posting in the wrong forum on the wrong day, but you are relatively new and are therefore forgiven.
     
  12. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Let's add that 40S&W does build a heckuva lot of breech pressure, so it's probably the most likely caliber to KB.
     
  13. sing

    sing rogue valley New Member

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    my good friend had his glock 22 go boom. it had a very high round count and he does reload. ill see if i can get some pics.
     
  14. MilesTeg

    MilesTeg Troutdale, OR Active Member

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    Portland Police dropped their .45 Glocks because of the kb issue. You can solve the issue by getting an aftermarket barrel. Anything made by man can and will break.
     
  15. Daniel1989

    Daniel1989 Dallas,OR New Member

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    thats funny everyone talks bad about the glock and there isent even a glock on this page that is blown up and for two why would glock send out a ruger thats bs keep your guns clean and and lubed up and shoot good ammo and this stuff wont happen
    my glock shoots good and it has a stock barrle
     
  16. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Get all the details at .... BANG BANG ... the Gun Room.
     
  17. MilesTeg

    MilesTeg Troutdale, OR Active Member

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    Why would anyone go to the Gun Room in the first place for anything.... Besides if Glock approached him to be a dealer he would probably instantly convert to the merits of the gun.
     
  18. MilesTeg

    MilesTeg Troutdale, OR Active Member

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    Most of those pictures are from overcharged loads and or squibs followed up with another another round right behind them. Not necessarily a defect of the firearm. Human error accounts for a lot. Some Glock kb's can be traced down to morons shooting lead loads in the polygonal rifling leading to lead build up and excessive pressures. I have a G17 and have been perfectly happy with it. The PPD .45's had blown cases that were not caused by shooting lead loads or over pressure reloads. The unsupported barrel was considered a liabilty and they were ditched. They are perfectly happy with the current reliablity of the 9mm Glocks.

    As for the .40's it is interesting to take a look at what Glock has quietly been doing with its own barrels over the years. As you can see they have increased the case support area as was already done on aftermarket barrels from Lone Wolf. Don't think they would have made the change unless there was a reason.
     
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  19. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Better get down to the ... BANG BANG ... Gun Room, and ask them what they think of Glock, to find out. Warren will tell you.
     
  20. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I just talked to a guy that bought some Machine gun ammo that stated " do not use in pistols" that has been shooting it out of his Glock 17

    No problems yet