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They're not illegal until you have completed the receiver and failed to put a serial number on it. That is my opinion.
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And as you noted, the fact that a Glock receiver does not have the 3.7 oz required (undetectable definition) but is still legal (not untraceable gun, that's different and still legal no serial) with a barrel and slide made of steel, further reinforces my belief that Polymer 80 receivers are not illegal in WA with a metal barrel or slide. I may hire an attorney to confirm this further.
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Untraceable is different than undetectable. The first one is still legal for personal use. The second is as well as long as you use a metal slide and barrel IMO based on the laws I posted.
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(B) the term "major component" means, with respect to a firearm, the barrel, the slide or cylinder, or the frame or receiver of the firearm; and
... or any firearm where the barrel, the slide or cylinder, or the frame or receiver of the firearm would not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the part when examined by the types of X-ray machines commonly used at airports.
They're not illegal until you have completed the receiver and failed to put a serial number on it. That is my opinion.
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section, it is unlawful for any person to:
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(d) Manufacture an untraceable firearm with the intent to sell the untraceable firearm.
Untraceable is legal if not made to sell. Undetectable are ALWAYS illegal, federally and stately. Undetecable is a two part test -- metal detector and Xray. Adding a slide passes the metal detector, but fails the Xray, and such a gun would be a crime. The Federal Law I linked in the post above says this with respect to the Xray requirement (different from the metal detector requirement):
Each of those three categories must independently pass the Xray test to not be undetectable. Adding an Xray detetecable slide to an Xray UNdetectable frame, fails to meet the law and the gun is illegal.
WA law does the same thing as Federal law:
SO -- adding a slide to an Xray invisible lower would pass the metal detector test, but fail the Xray test, and the gun would be undetectable and a crime to possess.
Wow that is awesome and accurate, where did you find that?
Yes, I was pointing out to him the difference between untraceable that he posted about vs the undetectable that I posted about. ....
Is there a legal opinion published anywhere about this? I doubt our wonderful AG has weighted in but has anyone else?
I really dont worry about it. I dont think a forest service cop is going to field strip any of my 80%s and whip out a scale to weight the metal.
Another kick azz thread . . . . .
And I agree. But still above averageGood stuff, but I wish members wouldn't start a thread then edit it after others post their thoughts. The OP and even the title are nothing like they were when it was originally started.
And I agree. But still above average
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The States of New Jersey, Washington, or District of Columbia prohibits ownership of all receiver blanks & 80% products.
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Good stuff, but I wish members wouldn't start a thread then edit it after others post their thoughts. The OP and even the title are nothing like they were when it was originally started.