Getting ready for the ban

[BAJ475]

Well, fellas. I lived under the California mag ban for 18 years before pulling stumps for the PNW and in all that time I know of no honest citizen getting pulled over and searched for illegal magazines.. Any busts that occurred involving magazines were always part of some larger issue such as a DUI or known felon getting pulled over and searched. There were no magazine checkpoints on the road or neighborhood sweeps--EVER! I see no reason to think it will be any different here.
So...Don't be an idiot and the cops won't even look at you.

Everyone here is overthinking themselves into a tizzy. Just go about your normal daily life and the police etc. will be content to ignore this magazine ban as much as I will. The trick to this is the same as most of life--Don't be an bubblegum and you'll be fine.

Peace

What you are ignoring is that possession in CA was grandfathered until the law Duncan challenged became effective. So, a CA LEO would have needed some evidence to conclude that any particular magazine was not a grandfathered magazine before seizing it. And, of course, there are now the freedom week magazines to contend with. Because the WA law will not make possession unlawful, there would need to be more than mere possession for a LEO to seize a large capacity magazine from a WA resident. What would be needed is evidence of importation or distribution on or after July 1, 2022, and for a charge of importation there would need to be some evidence that the magazine had not been removed from WA to show that it had been unlawfully imported. The tricky part will be with non residents because it would not be unreasonable to assume that the magazines had crossed the WA - OR or WA - ID boarder. But there would still be the issue of whether or not those magazines had been possessed by the non resident in WA prior to July 1, 2022.

 

[RX-79G]

If your posts in this thread were a shape, it would be a circle!

There's a reason they needed to be.

Incorrect. An actor employed, at any level, by a state represents that state, and by/through that representation, is the state. So, "some inexperienced patrolman" is, in fact, "the state."

He isn't the state when it comes to making law or policy, which is why his superiors can apologize and undue his actions when they disagree. Or fire him, or try him. And you can only sue the state for what was done, not why it happened. If your property is taken and you're compensated, then the state has completed its responsibility of oversight. Again, no lawsuit. (And that's without even getting into sovereign immunity.)

And I have already said, "You win." Why belabor this further?

Why post this sentence after offering yet another argument?

I carry Rx opioids, yet I don't see the need for any email or whatever as being necessary. The name on my WDL will match the name on the pill bottle label.

The label on the pill bottle is your receipt. You carry it with you, doing exactly what I'm recommending. If you carried a smaller vessel that was unlabeled, you would do well to have some other form of receipt.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

If you boys keep beatin' on that dead horse there ain't gonna be enough left for the buzzards.

 

[sobo]

Spoiler

 

[Chess Lover]

If you say that they were already yours and you have a WA address, I rather doubt the cop will arrest you, but just take the offending item and write up a summons to appear. The officer would be acting out of caution because if he let you go with the mags and they turned out to be illegal, he would have lost control of them. You're not a danger to anyone without them, like a drunk driver or a prior felon is.

This is the pattern with public forfeiture laws when police suspect you're transporting elicit cash.

So I doubt someone who is not belligerent, has no warrants and is acting like they have nothing to hide would be arrested and immediately charged. Confiscated and investigated - yes.

An individual could be arrested on the basis of probable cause. Whether such incidents actually occur in the future remains to be seen. Even if the case gets dismissed immediately for lack of evidence, the individual will have to spend time, money, and energy depending him- or herself.

 

[Old Dog]

I submit the only people that should be concerned about this law would be residents of King County.

 

[GWS]

What you are ignoring is that possession in CA was grandfathered until the law Duncan challenged became effective. So, a CA LEO would have needed some evidence to conclude that any particular magazine was not a grandfathered magazine before seizing it. And, of course, there are now the freedom week magazines to contend with. Because the WA law will not make possession unlawful, there would need to be more than mere possession for a LEO to seize a large capacity magazine from a WA resident. What would be needed is evidence of importation or distribution on or after July 1, 2022, and for a charge of importation there would need to be some evidence that the magazine had not been removed from WA to show that it had been unlawfully imported. The tricky part will be with non residents because it would not be unreasonable to assume that the magazines had crossed the WA - OR or WA - ID boarder. But there would still be the issue of whether or not those magazines had been possessed by the non resident in WA prior to July 1, 2022.

I'm not sure what your point is. That new law is still under a stay. It is yet to go into effect. The grandfathering has lasted over 20 years so far
There have been no magazine sweeps or demand to turn them all in. That "Freedom Week" not only brought in a million or more magazines. It also legalized every magazine smuggled into CA since 1/1/200 because they could never prove they weren't brought in during that window
How many magazines do you imagine will actually be turned in if this California mag ban law ever does go full retard?

What I said earlier applies to non-residents as well as residents. Don't be an idiot and you'll be fine

 

[Diamondback]

As you can see in my autosig...

Latest on Kiddie-Diddler Kreidler... frankly I hope he refuses to fall on the sword just to spread the pain on more of his own.

Inslee, legislative leaders want Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler to resign after he fired whistleblower

Leaders of both parties are calling on Washington Insurance Commissioner Mike Kreidler to resign, after he fired a top aide who complained about bullying and crass language.

www.seattletimes.com

 

[Xaevian]

Tough call, it is so hard to agree with Jackboot Jay on anything. If he demanded that I kick him in the Jimmy Jay, I would have to take a second to override that impulse to not do what he says before putting the footballs through the uprights.

 

[xtratoy]

As of last week some online vendors were already declining sales of +10 capacity magazines to Washington residents. The law doesn't take affect until July 1st.

 

[Diamondback]

As of last week some online vendors were already declining sales of +10 capacity magazines to Washington residents. The law doesn't take affect until July 1st.

That's allowing for "worst case scenario" shipping delays. Palmetto and a few others have at least had the courtesy to give advance notice and countdowns about "last day to ship for WA will be ___."

 

[User 1234]

Grab A Gun cut us off a week ago, and some other online vendors are only accepting orders through today.

 

[ma96782]

Considering..........

Micro Stamping.

Yeah....NY passed it and CA has had it for awhile.

Technology will just need to catch up to the lofty ideas of the Ds. Yeah make sense? Passing LAWS......before stuff is even POSSIBLE/USEFUL on a wide scale.

The Framers of the Constitution......should have known?

Rrrrrright.....that is why we have "problems" with semi-automatic firearms? Cough, cough......

Aloha, Mark

PS......

".....shall not be infringed."

 

[3MTA3]

Considering..........

Micro Stamping.

Yeah....NY passed it and CA has had it for awhile.

Technology will just need to catch up to the lofty ideas of the Ds. Yeah make sense? Passing LAWS......before stuff is even POSSIBLE/USEFUL on a wide scale.

The Framers of the Constitution......should have known?

Rrrrrright.....that is why we have "problems" with semi-automatic firearms? Cough, cough......

Aloha, Mark

PS......

".....shall not be infringed."

It's not the guns I want to micro stamp, and I'm willing to start
now using my latest technology on those civil right stealers

 

[ma96782]

RE : Post #833
Multi-shot/Repeaters/Semi Autos and the sarcasm.

Yes......I was aware. But for those who were not......

Multi-Shot Assault Weapons Of The 1700s And The 2nd Amendment

Proponents of stricter gun control have a problem with the Second Amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” One of their arguments is that our Founding Fathers could not have...

arizonadailyindependent.com

Now perhaps..........more people will know too.

Aloha, Mark

 

[CLRTR999]

Last chance to order online - PSA cuts off WA orders for standard-cap tonight at 8pm Pacific 6-22-22.
From their site: "All magazine sales of 10+ capacity to Washington end tonight at 11:00 PM EST."

https://palmettostatearmory.com/magazin ... =magazines

 

[xtratoy]

I wanted to get Springfield Armory SA-35 when the prices became realistic. Now I won't because if one did show up for a MSRP price it would only be a 10 round magazine model with no chance of upgrading to a higher capacity magazine later. I tried to buy some 15 round magazines for months but none have been available. FJI.....

 

[monkeybutler]

I wanted to get Springfield Armory SA-35 when the prices became realistic. Now I won't because if one did show up for a MSRP price it would only be a 10 round magazine model with no chance of upgrading to a higher capacity magazine later. I tried to buy some 15 round magazines for months but none have been available. FJI.....

The original Hi-Power mags don't fit? I've purchased several of them recently. 15 round Mecgars were out of stock not too long ago, but they came back.

 

[xtratoy]

The original Hi-Power mags don't fit? I've purchased several of them recently. 15 round Mecgars were out of stock not too long ago, but they came back.

Too late now...

 

[User 1234]

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Some of these sellers may have already cut off WA orders, but some will likely ship if you pay for second day air.