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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by TRD1911, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. TRD1911

    TRD1911 Kitsap, A-stan Member

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    A question in regards to concealed weapons and being pulled over.


    Q- is it mandatory to let the officer know that you are carrying?

    I understand that it would be a courtesy to do so if it isn't a law but if you have the proper permit then it shouldn't be necessary, right? I believe it would only add unnecessary stress to the situation if you are only being pulled over for a traffic infraction.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I've never been pulled over, but my opinion is that you should present your license, registration, proof of insurance and CCW. What it tells the officer is: "I am not a dirtbag"
     
  3. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    They may already know based on your registration. If they know, it would be better that you tell them up front.

    I have been pulled over several times and have always presented it to the LEO. They asked me where is it and then told me to leave it where it was. All of them were polite and twice I was told that more people should carry!

    YMMV
     
  4. matt_w

    matt_w Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    This has been discussed pretty extensively on here before. The general consensus is:

    -It's not mandatory to tell, but they will know once they run your plates.

    -It's considered polite to let them know by giving them your CHL along with your license when asked for it.
     
  5. baalzebubba

    baalzebubba Vancouver, WA Member

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    WA: Each time that I have been pulled over while I have my pistol, I run through the protocol of notification upfront at the first opportunity. "Officer, at this time I am obliged to inform you that I hold a concealed permit and there is a firearm in the vehicle."

    On each of those occasions I was let off with a warning for the (speeding, tail-light, etc). My perception was that informing them of the legit weapon eased the concern that I might produce a weapon during the administration of the traffic stop. With that unknown dismissed upfront, seems like the issues for which I was pulled over was not a concern.

    /knocking on wood
     
  6. snew

    snew Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    I was pulled over recently in OR and I neither offered the information nor was I asked. It was a polite interaction and I too was let off with a warning.
     
  7. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    I can count on one hand how many times I've been pulled over but I do have a script prepared:

    Keys out of the ignition, windows down, interior lights on and hands in plain view:

    "officer, I am licensed to carry a firearm in the state of OR/WA. I am currently armed. What do I need to do to make you most comfortable?"

    Once I was asked to take it out and put it on the passenger seat.

    The other time he simply asked me what I had.

    I don't think it's a good idea to rummage around in the glove box etc looking for all of my documentation before the officer has approached the car.
     
  8. Hungus

    Hungus SE Portland Member

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    Here in oregon in is not required by law to inform the officer but it is highly recomended by every officer I have talked to about it.
     
  9. NCW Ray

    NCW Ray Sunny Eastern Washington Active Member

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    sprice37 Albany Oregon Active Member

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    The officer I have spoke with about this situation did not care either way. i.e. "I am not woried about the law abiding citizens. It is the criminals that scare me." In any case I always inform.
     
  11. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    Interestingly I've also read that you shouldn't wind your car window all the way down or turn on your interior lights because there have been cases where this has been used by an LEO as an unlawful pretext to search a vehicle ("I saw/smelled something, your honor")
     
  12. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    What sense are you using the term obliged in? You aren't legally obliged to notify in WA unless you are asked.
     
  13. TRD1911

    TRD1911 Kitsap, A-stan Member

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    (b) Every licensee shall have his or her concealed pistol license in his or her immediate possession at all times that he or she is required by this section to have a concealed pistol license and shall display the same upon demand to any police officer or to any other person when and if required by law to do so. Any violation of this subsection (1)(b) shall be a class 1 civil infraction under chapter 7.80 RCW and shall be punished accordingly pursuant to chapter 7.80 RCW and the infraction rules for courts of limited jurisdiction

    I'm far from a lawyer so does the higlighted portion mean that every time you are required to present your license to an officer that it has to be combined with your CWP?
     
  14. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    No that means if he asks for it you must present it to him and then only if you have a pistol concealed are you required to do so.
     
  15. wakejoe

    wakejoe Beaverton, OR Well-Known Member

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    Make a sudden move!!!

    It's what I always do. :D

    (Sorry. :( )
     
  16. Kimber Custom

    Kimber Custom Vancouver, WA Bronze Vendor Bronze Vendor

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    Yes that is true. However, there is nothing illegal in my car so it's not something I worry about. :cool:
     
  17. Skybill

    Skybill Vancouver, WA Member

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    That is exactly my plan too!
     
  18. Skybill

    Skybill Vancouver, WA Member

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    Probably starting the conversation out with "I've got a gun" is not a good idea!

    I suspect that the situation will go nowhere but downhill from there!
     
  19. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Most say you need to let them know, but a far as I've seen there is no law saying you have to legally tell them. But you will have to suffer the attitude if you don't.

    I got pulled over a few months ago in Madras as I was passing through. My tags were expired(I thought I was good till the end of the month, not the date I renewed.) Any way I had two guns in the car, one in my bag in the back of my SUV and the other was behind my passenger seat in a pocket, loaded. The officer asked all the usual questions and grabbed my ID. He started to walk back to his car, stopped, and asked if I had any guns in the car. I said yes, and he had to do a double take and asked "you do?" I said yes told him where they were and said I have a permit. He asked for the permit, I gave it to him. He ran my ID. Came back and said thank you, and handed my stuff back and told me to make sure I get my new tags when I get back to town.

    I didn't give him the info, and he was always really pleasent and nice.
     
  20. Karma

    Karma the woods in Oregon Active Member

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    My method is simple. I just act like everything is normal and don't tell the officer anything unless I am asked. I really don't believe me legally carrying a weapon has anything to do with the officer and a traffic stop. Things have worked very well that way for me. I have never had a officer ask to see my weapon. I have never had a officer ask me to do anything at all with my weapon.