getting my lower's SBR'd

[JB11rx]

So I am going to be sending three lowers in to get engraved so I can start the process to get them SBR'd....

I know I need to have my name, city and state engraved, My question is this... Lets say my birth name is Joseph E Billings and I live in Corvallis Oregon... do I need to have the engravment done like this:

Joseph E Billings
Corvallis Oregon

or since I go by Joe can I have it done like this:

Joe E Billings
Corvallis Oregon

Do I havw to have my middle initial in there or not? I guess I'm just wondering how my name needs to be engraved... I dont want to ship these again...

Thanks in advance!

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[misplacedtexan]

You should include the middle initial, but that ATF's NFA branch has issued guidance that when submitting forms as a person you can use known abbreviations of names. Joe for Joseph would fall under that umbrella.

You could also use J. E. Billings.

and Oregon can be engraved as just OR.



Reference:

[Code of Federal Regulations]
[Title 27, Volume 2]
[Revised as of April 1, 2003]
From the U.S. Government Printing Office via GPO Access
[CITE: 27CFR479.102]
[Page 188-189]
TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS
CHAPTER II--BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES,
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
PART 479--MACHINE GUNS, DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES, AND CERTAIN OTHER FIREARMS--Table of Contents
Subpart G--Registration and Identification of Firearms
Sec. 479.102 How must firearms be identified?
(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must
legibly identify the firearm as follows:
(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise
conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped
(impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual
serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not
susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must
not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For
firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002,
the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number
must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller
than 1/16 inch; and
(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise
conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped
(impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain
additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not
susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For
firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002,
the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information
must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information
includes:
(i) The model, if such designation has been made;
(ii) The caliber or gauge;
(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when
applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;
(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State
(or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer
maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the
firearm; and
[[Page 189]]
(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in
which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized
abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of
business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see
Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.
(b) The depth of all markings required by this section will be
measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges.
The height of serial numbers required by paragraph (a)(1) of this
section will be measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of
the character impression bottoms (bases).
(c) The Director may authorize other means of identification upon
receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate,
showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder
the effective administration of this part.
(d) In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize
other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter
application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving,
casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or
impracticable.
(e) A firearm frame or receiver that is not a component part of a
complete weapon at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed
of by you must be identified as required by this section.
(f)(1) Any part defined as a machine gun, muffler, or silencer for
the purposes of this part that is not a component part of a complete
firearm at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you
must be identified as required by this section.
(2) The Director may authorize other means of identification of
parts defined as machine guns other than frames or receivers and parts
defined as mufflers or silencers upon receipt of a letter application
from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification
is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this
part.

 

[JB11rx]

Sweet! Thanks for the info!

 

[misplacedtexan]

On a side note for everyone else...

Trust, Corporations, and the like CANNOT have abbreviated.

 

[JB11rx]

In reference to the engraving is there anyone local that does SBR engraving? I'd rather keep my money in state if I can... and my lowers out of the mail...

Thanks

 

[sparky923]

In reference to the engraving is there anyone local that does SBR engraving? I'd rather keep my money in state if I can... and my lowers out of the mail...

Thanks

BYE engraving up near Portland seems to be a favorite. Nobody else seems to. I'd like find one South of Salem.

 

[OREGON FALER]

Halo Manufacturing down in eugene will do it for $50 each. And he takes a while to get it done.

 

[Modeler]

BYE will do it while you wait and for $25-30 (I don't remember exactly).

 

[BIG_GUNNUT]

Bye engraving. Call ahead and make an appointment. They have been $25.

 

[JB11rx]

Thanks for all the options guys!

 

[PDXSparky]

Bye engraving. Call ahead and make an appointment. They have been $25.

Now if I could only find a 10" Uzi barrel to have engraved, I'd SBR mine.

 

[goatguns]

BYE engraving just did 3 for me and they are great people. I made an appointment and they did them in about 35 minutes while I shoot the breeze with them.

 

[JRH Oregon]

Would initials only be considered a recognized abbreviation? Or does the last name need to be completely spelled out?

 

[PDXSparky]

Would initials only be considered a recognized abbreviation? Or does the last name need to be completely spelled out?

From my understanding, the only thing you can abbreviate is the state. You have to spell out everything else. That's why smart people choose a short name when they set up their trust.