Getting my guns back

[mwalterx]

Hello All,

Thank you in advance to those who help with any information and advice or action leading to recovery of my firearms at this trying time. There is a bobcat after my house cats and I can't protect them from predators.

I have been hard for cash at times and used my firearms collection for collateral in pawn shop loans. I borrowed money this way when I moved in 2020 and when I went to get my firearms out that fall, my background check was paused as waiting for info and it's been stuck there ever since. I tried everything but nothing worked and I didn't get to go hunting that year, or the next or the next and I pay about $350 a month on these gun loans. It causes sadness because I can't go hunting or target practice with my guns, I can't build the bullets for them either because I have no way to test my rounds.

No mention of ever protecting myself or a loved on against a physical threat, now I've got a huge bobcat 100 yards from my house and I have 3 cats that aren't supposed to be able to come in the house. Now I'm not able to protect them from a current threat and that is an actual extreme injustice and it's against my rights as a law abiding, tax paying citizen of my court, state, and country. So what the heck?

Just a little about me.. I've never done anything bad. I've no restraining orders or investigations or record. Nothing, not even parking or speeding tickets. I'm a 47 year old pharmacist who likes to fish and hunt. Being a pharmacist, I go through a complete state background check every license renewal, at this point, that is a comprehensive background check every two years. I have a valid legal concealed carry permit that I just renewed and updated address. I have not only an Oregon permit but a valid concealed carry permit for Utah as well, allowing me to concealed carry reciprocation in every state of our nation.

Now I can't even protect my animals. These are my own guns, I already own them.

Please, please, someone help me.

Thank you,
Mwalterx

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[BillyJean]

Ask the pawn shop to CALL in your background check and do it over the phone. Some FFLs are doing this and get results in under 24 hours.

 

[Certaindeaf]

So it's been three years and $11,000 in interest so far? Wow.
You don't have one gun? Can you buy a $150 12 gauge for now?

 

[drstrangelove]

So it's been three years and $11,000 in interest so far? Wow.
You don't have one gun? Can you buy a $150 12 gauge for now?

It strains credulity that any man would pay that in interest rather than let them go and buy anew at a different FFL.

 

[Certaindeaf]

It strains credulity that any man would pay that in interest rather than let them go and buy anew at a different FFL.

I made out pretty good when I pawned a Betamax video player back in the day.. I never went back.. suckers!

 

[Catfishmoon]

It strains credulity.

This.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Probably just need someadem emdem gooses.

 

[Flintlock Tom]

It's my understanding that if it takes over thirty days the BGC must be re-submitted. Did you try re-submitting the BGC?
Also, why did you pawn ALL of your guns at the same time?

 

[Joe13]

I don't have any useful advice other then if you are a pharmacist then you most likely take home more then my wife and I combined…

I'm not throwing stones because I've had to sell everything but a handgun and my heirloom guns (401k and pensions etc) to get my wife thru school and then I have had to slowly and painfully try and rebuild a fraction of what I once had but I never sold ALL of my guns - pretty much to avoid the situation you are currently in.

I hope you are just not good with your money and that life has not hit you hard repeatedly but if you are paying $350 a month then I would do 2 things.

Buy a used but serviceable long gun and eat ramen for every meal for a month if that's what you have to do in order to afford said long gun.

And second I would highly recommend investing in a financial planner to get you above water so life isn't so stressful for you.

I'm close to your age and stress has literally caused numerous chronic physical issues that I am now stuck with forever.

Best of Luck to you and I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[P7M13]

Air rifle.
A pharmacist being hard up for money begs a question that goes far beyond the issue of this thread.

 

[Knobgoblin]

They are gone. Start over.

 

[TTSX]

Black powder, air gun, bow and arrow... go to another FFL and buy a new gun... baseball bat... cajones...

 

[ma96782]

Aloha, Mark

 

[mwalterx]

Well all, thanks for being present and showing interest. Yes, I pawned them all to come up with part of the money to move, it can be really expensive but if commute gets too long, it's the only way. I've moved lots of things, and recently have moved to this area after working here for the last 6 months.

Yes, I pawned my guns because I wanted a quick 4 grand in cash. The only reason I don't have them back is because the background check won't go through and I have lots invested in those firearms, some, hell, all are special to me, never expected them to get stuck in pawn. I want them back.

I have 1 gun in my gun safe, an heirloom shotgun from my father. He has passed and the gun is a 16 gauge shotgun that hasn't missed yet.

So, this is a real issue. My stuff is stuck. I'm wondering if anyone know how to actually help.

Thanks,
Mwalterx

 

[mwalterx]

Ask the pawn shop to CALL in your background check and do it over the phone. Some FFLs are doing this and get results in under 24 hours.

I will speak to them about this my next day off.

 

[oremike]

Walk away or lawyer up are the 2 choices I see.

 

[mwalterx]

So it's been three years and $11,000 in interest so far? Wow.
You don't have one gun? Can you buy a $150 12 gauge for now?

I do have one shotgun, but I want my hunting rifles and pistols back.

 

[mwalterx]

It's my understanding that if it takes over thirty days the BGC must be re-submitted. Did you try re-submitting the BGC?
Also, why did you pawn ALL of your guns at the same time?

Will speak to them about this detail next day off. I pawned them because I expected to just get them back in a couple months. Instead I have tried several times and jUst been told I was paused

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Welcome to the forum.
Sorry about your pawn / BGC issues...I have no help for you there.

I do see that you have a shotgun....A 16 gauge outta do the trick for any bobcat out there...
Andy

 

[mwalterx]

I don't have any useful advice other then if you are a pharmacist then you most likely take home more then my wife and I combined…

I'm not throwing stones because I've had to sell everything but a handgun and my heirloom guns (401k and pensions etc) to get my wife thru school and then I have had to slowly and painfully try and rebuild a fraction of what I once had but I never sold ALL of my guns - pretty much to avoid the situation you are currently in.

I hope you are just not good with your money and that life has not hit you hard repeatedly but if you are paying $350 a month then I would do 2 things.

Buy a used but serviceable long gun and eat ramen for every meal for a month if that's what you have to do in order to afford said long gun.

And second I would highly recommend investing in a financial planner to get you above water so life isn't so stressful for you.

I'm close to your age and stress has literally caused numerous chronic physical issues that I am now stuck with forever.

Best of Luck to you and I hope you find what you are looking for.

I'm not giving up on my stuff. I have a clean record and I would like my property back according to the contract. It's unfair and obviously expensive.