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Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by branchbuster, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    Why is the price of gas dropping while the the price of oil is rising?
     
  2. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Because they are *COMPLETELY* divorced from each other nowadays. They bear only the most cursory of "direct" cost links. For example, oil FUTURES have more impact on gasoline prices than current oil prices. Speculation has more to do with gasoline prices than raw oil prices do. Oil company greed has more to do with gas prices than actual raw material cost does.
     
  3. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Gasoline: the new big U.S. export

    And, the article goes on from there.....
     
  4. Sabertooth

    Sabertooth Josephine County Active Member

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    Prices go up till the public starts to scream, then goes down to make the public feel the the price is better. Cost of production stays about the same. Repeat this cycle.
    Someone gets a new Royles Royce, Bently, Lear Jet and new 50,000 square foot home. The public gets to bend over
     
  5. knuckle Head

    knuckle Head southeast Well-Known Member

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    And they have kept this pretty quiet, I had read before and lost the article and forgot about it. Thanks for posting it, you know I have absolutely no problem with a company making as much of a profit on anything as it can. But once it starts to hurt and detroy the country and people who live it, that is when it becomes greed.

    Now call me whatever you want, but how come the news media doesn't mention this and report on it like they do katrina and the BP spill, why it's because of the overall plot to implode the worlds economy and bring complete chaos, thus turning into a one world government and letting the gestapo toss you and I into jail without being charged. have you read where congress is trying to pass a bill that the american military can arrest anyone anywhere in the world and hold them indefinitely without being charged » Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern Americans Without Trial Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
     
  6. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    I just thought it was "the man" tricking us to spend more at Christmas.
     
  7. BrentN

    BrentN Kelso Active Member

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    Price per barrel peaked in what, late 08 or early 09 at around $150/barrel. Price at the pump at around $4/gallon, everyone freaked, truckers threatened stoppages, price of pretty much everything from garbage service to personal lube goes up due to fuel costs. Now the price per barrel has backed off to somewhere around $100, yet we are still paying $3.50 plus at the pump, prices of everything remain at high levels. I know this is a simple comparison, but..
     
  8. SB1027

    SB1027 Ycounty New Member

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    I think the whole idea is to keep creating new "lows" which used to be the old highs, as the lows progressively rises over and over. Kind of like they did taxes
    in the 30's they raised taxes to 75% from 10%, the people started finding loopholes or cheating the system so it dropped back down to 30% and people
    thought that was great. In the end they got a higher standard than before. Also they know we Americans are too innovative to be pawns in thier coorperate
    game, so they have to lower it to keep our innovations down. (#'s & dates may be off but just making a point of reference).
     
  9. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    It's more complicated than corporate greed or more fuel efficient vehicles on the road.

    I just finished reading "The Prize" by Daniel Yergin. It's a laborious read regarding the history of oil.
    From the begining in 1856, when oil was first drilled in Titusville, Pennsylvania, to the musical chairs we're currently playing in the mid-east.

    The economies of pretty much every country in the world are based on the price of oil. Whether they are a producer or an importer.

    In this country, our government is keeping the price down at the pump (even though the price per barrel is up ) to keep the economy in its current fragile state from collapse.

    Our government, and that of a lot of other countries, work closely with the petroleum industry to keep economies in balance.

    One more punch to the 'ol bread basket, such as $5 per gallon at the pump, and the proverbial old lady sings!

    If you can get through it, 'The Prize', a 900 page narrative of the search for oil, power and wealth, is worth reading.

    Be well all,
    Will
     
  10. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Can't wait for the made-in-Oregon Arcimoto SRK to enter production sometime next year. Locally made small electric car. 40-80 mile range depending on battery pack you choose, with upgradeable battery pack later when there are higher-capacity options. Combine that with on-site power generation, and bye-bye money to foreign oil (or greedy domestic oil for that matter.) Already have a Prius with an extended battery that is sufficient for my 10 mile commute (and doubles as an emergency backup generator in a pinch.)
     
  11. Sabertooth

    Sabertooth Josephine County Active Member

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    My sister has a Prius, she love's it. She is retired and travels alot. I think Electric or Hybred is a great idea. But I will have to wait until they come up with an electric 1 ton 4x4 pickup that will tow the 20,000 lb GVW trailer that I have to haul my farm stuff around.
     
  12. knuckle Head

    knuckle Head southeast Well-Known Member

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    Well it will be sometime before an off-shore company can make one of those, and my experience with the idiots in Detroit (where I worked for sveral years and friends that still work there) if you buy the american auto with what you are asking for be ready for it to be in the shop or for the worthless moron to tell they are like that and there is nothing they can about.
     
  13. 9mmD

    9mmD sw wa Member

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    Boy that thing is going to suk when you get hit by the big 1ton. Plus if your commute is only 10 miles it only costs ya like $1.25 a day. Hell the bus costs that or more.
     
  14. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    So you don't think that it is an attempt to get people to spent more money for Christmas? Seems like might good timing.
     
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    Hook686 Northern California Active Member

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    So what are you going to do when electrical demand increases five fold and the grid collapses every other day as all those motorist plug in the electric cars when they get home ? Might be a good idea to keep a horse in the back yard.
     
  16. parallax

    parallax eugene, or-gun Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    horse and a bicycle.:thumbup:
     
  17. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    To quote the sentence immediately after the one you quoted: Combine that with on-site power generation, and bye-bye money to foreign oil...
     
  18. branchbuster

    branchbuster Albany Active Member

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    I believe that the price of gas is the truest indicator of the economy. It is a true supply and demand priced part of our lives.
     
  19. Working 4 U

    Working 4 U Eugene Active Member

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    Hey.... I used to work at Lear Jet (Wichiat KS) for 10 years. Lots of people work there and I am glad they want their Lear Jets and Bently's. I want one don't you?
     
  20. knuckle Head

    knuckle Head southeast Well-Known Member

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    Uh, No not really, no where to part them, cannot afford them even if I won the current maga millions at $150million or so, don't know if I would wnat either.

    Ok maybe the lear jet to buzz area 52 with, cause you cannot cross into military air space if it does not exist right?????????????