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Garbage!! Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Bill to Allow Guns on Public College Campuses

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by CharlesAFerg, Apr 18, 2011.

  1. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    Wow, I'm actually surprised... So much for her, what a hypocrite!
    "They said allowing guns on campuses would endanger employees, students and visitors, and it would be difficult for officers responding to a shooting to quickly identify a wrongdoer."
    Are you kidding? This is a BASIC argument that I thought was past the general public in Arizona! Brewer, you just lost a LOT of support...

    Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Bill to Allow Guns on Public College Campuses - FoxNews.com

    PHOENIX -- Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has vetoed a bill to allow guns to be carried on public rights of way on public university and community college campuses.
    Gun-rights advocates backed the bill, saying it would help people defend themselves and prevent them from getting in trouble for merely driving through a campus with a gun in a vehicle.
    University presidents opposed the bill. They said allowing guns on campuses would endanger employees, students and visitors, and it would be difficult for officers responding to a shooting to quickly identify a wrongdoer.
    The bill originally would have applied to campus buildings, including classrooms, by allowing people with concealed weapons permits to carry guns into the facilities.
    But it was scaled back during Senate consideration to apply only to rights of way. References to concealed weapons also were removed.

    Supporters said they needed to change the bill to only apply to rights of way because the original, broader measure lacked enough support in the House.
    The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence opposed the latest version and sought a veto, even though it said the bill was gutted by the Senate.
    Texas legislation similar to the original Arizona bill is stalled in that state, with opposition preventing it from coming to a Senate vote.
    Brewer must act by midnight Thursday on another Arizona guns-rights measure that would allow weapons in some government buildings that don't have airport-style security with armed guards and metal detectors.
    That bill would not override a separate state law that bars guns in K-12 schools, and it would not disturb a law that gives higher education officials the authority to ban guns.
    Also, the legislation would not clear the way for guns to be carried in public-owned convention centers, sports arenas, courthouses, prosecutors' offices and police facilities.
    Since becoming governor in January 2009, Brewer has signed several major guns-rights bills. Those included one to allow carrying a concealed weapon without having a state-issued permit, and another to allow carrying a concealed weapon into a bar or restaurant that serves alcohol.
     
  2. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    I am so sorry to hear this, I Used to support the Ol' Cougar, but I'm done with her now
     
  3. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Yep, we have even written her in the past to say thanks for her anti-illegal stance, but now say goodbye to higher ambitions, Janice
     
  4. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Just goes to show that neither Republicans nor Democrats should be relied on for preservation of 2nd amendment rights.
     
  5. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Very disappointing. She probably found a horse head in her bed. :paranoid:
     
  6. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    Hate to see what she thinks if another shooting occurs that could have been stopped.
     
  7. Sasquatchvnv

    Sasquatchvnv Port Orchard Active Member

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  8. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    I go with the horses head possibility
     
  9. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    She's a politician. I'll guarantee you she looked at the polling and based her approval or vetoe decision on that.
     
  10. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    Truth. Anyone want another example, look at who signed away rights to a NIB M249 SAW....
     
  11. CharlesAFerg

    CharlesAFerg Beaverton Active Member

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    What are you referring to?
     
  12. joeroket

    joeroket Everett,Wa. Active Member

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    It was my understanding that she vetoed the bill because it was very poorly written and could have had potential negative impacts on gun carriers because of it.
     
  13. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    That was my understanding as well. You cannot quote reasoning from bill opponents and attribute it to her. If the bill was poorly written and did not clearly delineate where one could and could not carry on campus, then it could cause legal gun carriers to run afoul of a poorly worded law. On occasion, its not a bad thing for a governor/leader to veto something and tell people to re-write it and get it right.

    Arizona Gov. Brewer Vetoes Bill to Allow Guns on Public College Campuses - FoxNews.com

    The first several paragraphs seem to show quotes from her that she supports expanding gun rights, but wants it well done. Just my two cents. I'm not commenting on her other issues (see illegals) as this is a firearms site, so I'll stick to firearms related issues...
     
  14. iomatic

    iomatic Portland Member

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    Let's get this straight: a Republican-backed bill is shot down by an NRA-endorsed Republican Governor.
    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/sb1467p.pdf


    Gun-rights advocates had backed the bill, saying it would help people defend themselves and prevent them from getting in trouble for merely driving through a campus with a gun in a vehicle.


    Bill is written poorly, so that it's vetoed: is this somehow still the Left's fault? Or maybe we can blame Bill Clinton?

    Come on, I expected more hate for the Left from this group. I mean when small erosions of our Second Amendments like these are made, it's always the Liberals and Democrats who are taking away our rights!!!

    *chuckle *

    Food for thought.

    Happy Friday!
     
  15. Miravox

    Miravox Seal Rock, Oregon, United States Member

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    Amen.
     
  16. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The much over rated Ronald Reagan
     
  17. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Yup, she's lost my support, you're either for the 2nd or against it..........
     
  18. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    WTF are you talking about, no one has tried to blame anyone but Brewer. It's a lefty ploy to pass the "Bush" err buck...
     
  19. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Just because a bill is backed by republicans doesn't make it necessarily well written. If it fails to clearly delineate the rules regarding carry on campus, then it SHOULD HAVE BEEN VETOED! If it's not clear, then all it does is give those who disagree with the law the room to interpret in a way that will get people in trouble. I feel like sometimes laws get backed or endorsed simply because they're a start. That's useless. Spend resources getting it right, not just passable...