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Garand conversion

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by corpsman, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. corpsman

    corpsman Pierce County, Washington, United States Active Member

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    Have a couple of Garands I am looking to have the barrels replaced in 7.62X51. Any smiths in the Seattle Tacoma area with experience with this procedure?

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  2. HollisOR

    HollisOR Rural OR, South of Dallas Active Member

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    Why? CMP has some really good 30-06 ammo for a very reasonable price. There are some kit available to convert to a Beretta BM59, Pretty slick set up.

    Beretta BM59 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Or a M1A1 would be a nice way to go.
     
  3. corpsman

    corpsman Pierce County, Washington, United States Active Member

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    OK, fair question. At this time, the only mil-surp 30-06 I can find in quantity is from CMP at a bit over 50 cents a round, including shipping. There is small supply of Iranian mil-surp from the 60's, running about 60 cents a round. CMP has declared they have enough for a few more years. No one is manufacturing new 30-06 for military purposes. On the other hand 7.62X51 NATO, is being made in the US and Europe, to NATO standards in large quantities for military consumption, which means older ammo is still being surplussed. I have been buying German DAG in 200 round battle packs at $80 each.
    And yes, the M1A is a good choice and I have 2. I also have 2 Garands and want to able to feed them well into the future. The BM59 is an excellent design, however the mags are rare and VERY expensive. For an interesting Garand conversion to use M14/M1A mags Google Shuff's Parkerizing.

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  4. HollisOR

    HollisOR Rural OR, South of Dallas Active Member

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    Your reasoning is good, can not argue with that. I have developed a strong view on leaving venerable military firearms as it. In time original conditions become more valuable and conversions looses value. Also reloading helps and shopping around for components. .308 as you pointed out is 40 cents a round VS 50 cents. There is a guy near me that rebarrels Garands. I had a Dutch Garand rebarreled from him. We are about 1 1/2 hours from the border. I can get his name if you are interested. PM me. If you do a conversion, I would like to hear how it worked out.
     
  5. corpsman

    corpsman Pierce County, Washington, United States Active Member

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    Hollisor,
    I am definitely interested. In the Eugene area? Have lots of family from and in the Valley, born in Eugene.
    Anyway, the .308 conversion of the Garand is nothing new. The Navy converted tens of thousands in the
    late 50's and 60's. I have fired several and the only difference I could perceive was slightly lessor recoil.
    Ballistics are almost identical with about 50 fps difference at the muzzle, given identical 147 gr FMJ bullets.
    The Garand clips feed both cartridges without issues. The main issue I have to deal with is that one of my
    Garands is heavily modified, by a fellow known for his work on Garanda and M14 types, name of clint Fowler.
    The rifle was manufactured by Breda, in Rome, Italy on Winchester machine tools in the early 50's. The
    receiver has Danish Ordinance markings. It has a Douglas medium grade barrel and a similar .308 barrel
    will run more than $300.



    corpsman

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  6. HollisOR

    HollisOR Rural OR, South of Dallas Active Member

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    As soon as I get the information, I will PM you.

    Hollis

    I have a Dutch Garand.
     
  7. Oohrah

    Oohrah NorthwestSouthern Oregon Coast Member

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    I own one of the Navy converted ones. They turn down the shank of a regular Garand barrel, rethread a bit farther. Run a 7.62 X 51 chamber reamer. It ends up being a barrel length one half inch shorter than the orginial barrel. Once they had a drop in chamber insert, but they didn't work out well, and had a couple of different problems with them. The only alteration with the barrel method is the barrel leaving the barrel length a half inch shorter. I don't know if there are nearby local smiths who do this type of work. I have seen kits through Sarco or Gun Parts, but they are pretty spendy.
     
  8. corpsman

    corpsman Pierce County, Washington, United States Active Member

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    Would appreciate some links regarding who does the barrel mods and what
    the procedure entails.
     
  9. CAL30M1

    CAL30M1 Longview, WA Active Member

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    Not in Seattle obviously but Springfield Armory does complete servicing on M1 Garands. Turnaround is about 6 weeks but I don't think you will find a better price for a new barrel installed in your choice of '06 or .308.
     
  10. corpsman

    corpsman Pierce County, Washington, United States Active Member

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    I appreciate the suggestion. Really want a local smith so I can check
    the work as it progresses, be able to discuss and visually inspect options.
    Been there and done that, usually things work OK remotely, but, once
    burned, twice shy.