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Fully automatic, Short barreled rifles, etc. in WA

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by CaliberGeek, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. CaliberGeek

    CaliberGeek Seattle, WA Member

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    So I understand fully automatic weapons, unlike in other states, are completely illegal for civilians to own in WA. There is no paperwork or fee to pay in the world that would allow a washingtonian to own a fully automatic weapon (but you can in Oregon :( :( :( just paperwork + $200 stamp fee)




    My question is, what are the rules for short-barreled rifles such as a 10.5" AR-15?
     
  2. tripleshotsplease

    tripleshotsplease Seattle Active Member

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    no such thing.

    the only thing we have in WA is AOW, which is "Any Other weapon" but no SBR aka Short Barreled Rifles
    sorry bud, we all want one, but that requires moving to OR...... "hippy-land" cough cough " Portlandia" cough cough :bluelaugh:
     
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  3. CaliberGeek

    CaliberGeek Seattle, WA Member

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    thanks. answered my question :)
     
  4. Swedish K

    Swedish K SW Washington Moderator Staff Member

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    The exception to the rule is grandfathered NFA items - if you had them before change of the law you could keep them but not transfer them in the state.
     
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  5. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    you DON'T have to live in HIPPY LAND
     
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  6. conp435

    conp435 woodinville Active Member

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    get a ffl and pay your sot and have all the toys you want.
     
  7. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    There are 6 classes of NFA items; Silencers, SBR (short barreled rifle), SBS (short barreled shotgun), AOW (any other weapon), DD (destructive device) and MG (machine gun). Currently in WA Silencers, DD and AOW are Legal while the rest are not. There is a push to get SBS/SBR legal soon.

    You have to do NFA paperwork to purchase any of them. Here is some more info for you, GunBroker.com Message Forums - Basic NFA FAQ (update 4-6-11)
     
  8. DinhRose

    DinhRose Austin, Texas (Ex-Pat of SE PDX) Active Member

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    I understand automatic weapons and to some degree why silencers are an nfa items...but it's what I don't understand are why sbr's require a tax stamp and approval. Perfectly legal to purchase an ar15 or an ar pistol but or some reason a an ar15 with a shorter barrel require a tax stamp?
     
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  9. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    Your GOV... at work....
     
  10. Ding

    Ding Lighter Side of Oz Active Member

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    "Short-barreled rifles are illegal simply because they are short, which makes them suitable for unlawful purposes because of their concealability and ease of handling." This is how they view things.
     
  11. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The NFA of '34 originally included handguns as highly regulated firearms. They removed that restriction to get it passed. They conveniently forgot to remove the restrictions about shortening rifles and shotguns to make them concealable.
    There is no logic to it, like most firearm laws.

     
  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The 2nd Amendment states that ARMS are our birthRIGHT.. not a priviledge parceled out by a government agency

    A RIGHT cannot be minimized or abridged
     
  13. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

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    And yet, it's heavily regulated, by 51 different governments, and you comply with the regulations.

    Under those circumstances, I don't see why you'd raise your voice.

    A lot of the regulations are good things. That makes it a scale of gray.
     
  14. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    The Founders nor I believe in "scales of grey" in this matter. Regulations on essential rights are NEVER a "good thing.. EVER

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tench_Coxe

    Try boning up on the whys and hows the BORs was created..

    http://www.tasigh.org/kevin/firearmq.html
     
  15. Jammer Six

    Jammer Six North Greenlake, Seattle New Member

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    The founders were rich, many of them were slave owners, and the constitution they wrote specifically did not protect over 70% of the humans then living in what became the United States. They wrote to protect themselves, but the significant point is this: they knew that the constitution would have to be changed, immediately and significantly.

    The bill of rights is the result of that foresight and that change, one should never forget that.

    What it means is that they knew they couldn't predict where we'd be, and they wrote the founding documents accordingly.

    It's up to us to keep what we want and change the rest to suit what we need.

    In a world without electricity, they had no way of dealing with the problem of child pornography on the internet.

    They were wise enough to know that, and ignoring this state of affairs is mentally and spiritually lazy.

    It might be simpler, but that is its only attraction. Black and white is for children, who have not developed the wisdom to deal with reality, which is always gray.

    There is only one unregulated right, there is only one right that the government does not have the power to strip from you.
     
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    tedium27 Craigmont, ID Member

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    Just to muddle things up a bit; there is NO SUCH THING as a silencer, only muzzle blast suppressors.
     
  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    You can't change or deny any inalienable right no matter how hard you try. I consider anyone who tries to do so a domestic enemy.. you fill in the blanks

    Throwing in the rich and slaveowner red herring comment was proof you are a brainwashed lemming
     
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    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I do?
     
  19. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    Blitzkrieg - go ahead and buy, purchase and make all the SBR's you want - dont register or pay a tax stamp on it - its your right. We will be seeing in in about 10 to 15 years and then tell us how much of a right you have.
    You can do anything you want but remember all actions have consequences whether any of us like it or not.


    James Ruby
     
  20. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Funny. How come all my Form 4's say "Silencer" on them? How come "Silencer" is listed in the ATF NFA handbook but suppressor is not?

    But then again I guess there is no such thing as facial tissue either, they really should be called "booger catchers"............