FSC47 Mod 2 compensator at night

[rjmt]

No, your not going to see photos of it fired at night, I don't have that capability, you'll have to take my word for it

received and mounted the FSC47 compensator yesterday, got out last night to test it on my range

mounted on a Chinese type 56, once threaded on to the indexing pin was a little loose so I used 500 deg teflon tape to tighten it up

using an old Nikon 3X compact scope on the Texas Weapons dogleg receiver mount

the only light was from my barn mounted arc light, several old Zucchini and summer squash died during this testing

shooting at 35 yrds, leaning against a fence post, no barrel rest

this compensators does as advertised, the muzzle flash come out laterally and one does not perceive the flash in your scope

also, muzzle rise was very slight, allowing me to keep the crosshairs within the zucchini at 35 yrds, getting quick follow up shots

BUT, you going to want to wear hearing protector with this compensator

I fired just 5 rnds before before wimped out and put on protectors

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[titsonritz]

BUT, you going to want to wear hearing protector with this compensator

I fired just 5 rnds before before wimped out and put on protectors

You're nuts for firing it all without ear pro.

 

[rjmt]

You're nuts for firing it all without ear pro.

I've fired my Garands and Mosins without ear protection for 30 years
all one hears from the shooters position is the cycling of the bolt
I didn't wear ear protection when walking sentry duty in the Army back in the Day

BUT my intent was if I had to run outside with my AK at night to engage a target, I"m probably not going to take the time to find my ear protection

 

[patbob]

That compensator sounds like a great bit of kit, and it'd be really cool to have some nighttime shooting pictures with it. If you're ever interested in trying to get some, drop me a line. I'm always up for a photographic challenge.

 

[rjmt]

I should have responded with a better explanation
I live on remote property
I fire all my firearms at least once without ear protection
if I have to fire at a predator or intruder on my property, chances are I will not be wearing ear protection to enhance situational awareness
on my property, with no walls or structures around you, the sound of the firearm to the shooter is not as intense as on a range with overhead cover or partitions
I know of no hunter who wears ear protection in the woods
I've observed many shooter who have only fired on a range with ear protection, drop their firearm and grab their ears the first time they shoot without them
knowing the sound of this firearm with the new muzzle brake, I would be hesitant to choose it for intruder defence
yet I fired this same rifle for 30 years before yesterday with no issue
I shoot my Mossberg 590 A1 12 ga regularly outside here, without ear protection and have perceived no discomfort
yet I would not fire a .357 in the dark or without ear protection

I don't know anyone who keeps ear protection next to their bed with their firearm

 

[rjmt]

That compensator sounds like a great bit of kit, and it'd be really cool to have some nighttime shooting pictures with it. If you're ever interested in trying to get some, drop me a line. I'm always up for a photographic challenge.

thanks, once this Chinese Flu is passed, I'll take you up on your offer
at this time, my wife and I are in self isolation

 

[titsonritz]

Walking sentry duty, firing at a predator or intruder on your property and hunting in the woods is a little different than just cracking off rounds. Compensator and brakes typically increase blast dramatically compared to a flash suppressor or even a bate muzzle and IMO have no business on fighting guns but that's me. I understand where you're coming from just know hearing loss is permanent but hey it's your hearing so roll on man.

 

[rjmt]

Walking sentry duty, firing at a predator or intruder on your property and hunting in the woods is a little different than just cracking off rounds. Compensator and brakes typically increase blast dramatically compared to a flash suppressor or even a bate muzzle and IMO have no business on fighting guns but that's me. I understand where you're coming from just know hearing loss is permanent but hey it's your hearing so roll on man.

I don't disagree with you on fighting guns, but the Russians disagree with us. Look at the new AK103
but this is a range Queen, not a fighting gun
I can now kill Zucchini faster
now a question - if I suffer hearing loss at age 70, does that mean I can't hear my wife of 37 years bubblegum at me for shooting in the front yard
when that AK with muzzle brake went off just 20' from the house, she knocked her dinner off the TV tray jumping off the couch

 

[The Heretic]

BUT my intent was if I had to run outside with my AK at night to engage a target, I"m probably not going to take the time to find my ear protection

I am just the opposite; my hearing is so bad that I need to put on the muffs with mics to be able to hear somebody sneaking up on me.

 

[titsonritz]

I don't disagree with you on fighting guns, but the Russians disagree with us. Look at the new AK103 but this is a range Queen, not a fighting gun

They're crazy, I took the AK47 muzzle brake off my AK and replaced it with a Manticore Arms Night Shroud flash hider. It use to be a noisy, fire breathing dragon...not any more, tamed it right down. It's an AK, it may be a safe queen but she'll always be a fighting gun.

 

[rjmt]

I was told over 30% of all Veterans of my ere of service have qualified for VA disability due to hearing loss

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones

been using a gas chain saw for 20 some odd years and never used ear protection ether

 

[Ura-Ki]

Wonder how well one of these would tame a Draco? THAT would be the schiznit if it did as well here on the Draco pistol!

 

[rjmt]

They're crazy, I took the AK47 muzzle brake off my AK and replaced it with a Manticore Arms Night Shroud flash hider. It use to be a noisy, fire breathing dragon...not any more, tamed it right down. It's an AK, it may be a safe queen but she'll always be a fighting gun.

my preference is the Vortex flash hider, have those on several of my 5.56 and 6.5G ARs
I built an AR just for hunting varmints at night with a Vortex, since I don't have to wear ear protection with a 5.56 and a Vortex flash hider doesn't ruin your night vision
no one I know wears ear protection when walking in the dark woods at night - your hearing is you main sensory system

 

[JustShoot]

https://youtu.be/OpkbuCjvbJk?t=683

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[titsonritz]

Vortex flash hiders are a great MD.

 

[titsonritz]

https://youtu.be/OpkbuCjvbJk?t=683

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Man, some of those are insane and I the AK-74 brake was bad enough.

 

[JustShoot]

Vortex flash hiders are a great MD.

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I never run a Vortex on a AK, .. but ( smith.) Vortex FH, on a 16" AR barrel .556 they are one of the top. Even putting on NV to check the Vortex signature (shooter position) it is top's.

The Bulgy 4-piece design Flash-hide, like the ( arsenal model ) in Vid. is tops also. I even run one on the little 8.5" 74u, 5.45 and it really helps tame that little beast down enough to run it and not rattle your brain .

the Only fault -- .. Bulgarian design is probably the heaviest weight of all the FH devises I have run .
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[titsonritz]

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I never run a Vortex on a AK, .. but ( smith.) Vortex FH, on a 16" AR barrel .556 they are one of the top. Even putting on NV to check the Vortex signature (shooter position) it is top's.

The Bulgy 4-piece design Flash-hide, like the ( arsenal model ) in Vid. is tops also. I even run one on the little 8.5" 74u, 5.45 and it really helps tame that little beast down enough to run it and not rattle your brain .

the Only fault -- .. Bulgarian design is probably the heaviest weight of all the FH devises I have run .
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I haven't either, only on an AR. The Vortex, B.E. Meyers 249f and White Sound FOSSA are all top flash hider for an AR.

I wish that video included the AK Vortex FH and Manticore Arms Night Shroud for comparison. I'd bet there is no perceivable difference between the first seven on that graph to the human eye.

 

[The Heretic]

I was told over 30% of all Veterans of my ere of service have qualified for VA disability due to hearing loss

I guess I'm one of the lucky ones

been using a gas chain saw for 20 some odd years and never used ear protection ether

I used to work in a number of factories and canneries before OSHA required hearing protection, then in the USCG I spent a lot of time around multiple loud diesel engines - even being on deck was loud. I also injured one eardrum in a training exercise. On top of that, I often did a lot of shooting without ear pro.

I had to retake the exit physical three times because I kept failing the hearing test. The tester got mad because he thought I was faking it and/or he had instructions to minimize possible claims for hearing loss. I now wear hearing aids when in an environment where I need to understand what people are saying - such as in an office. And yes, people and animals can sneak up on me very easily - or rather, I just plain do not hear them.

 

[rjmt]

one of the ways I navigate at night in my back woods is the trickle of the natural spring across the rocks in the stream bed

with little other natural sound and no light, I know approximately where I am by the sound of the stream

but I do sit down at the end of my gardens for 20 min to let my eyes adjust to the darkness

no moonlight walks in the forest on my property, with 150' tall Fir trees blocking out even the moonlight on what clear nights we have

we do get reflections off the clouds from the lights of that casino in Woodland when conditions are right, but mostly it's just dark and quiet

I'm cultivating walking paths through my woods now to allow this old man with an artificial knee to still go for late night walks in the woods

my main attire for these walks is an old set of smelly Carharts I use when cutting trees - even my wife says I don't smell human when I were these for a week