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I'm going back in November, I'm going down for a 3rd time for a 4 day handgun class. I learn new stuff everytime and have a lot of fun. It's a very safe, controlled environment. Classes are scripted w/very little down time. About 30% women in the two classes I've taken. 400 students the first time, 250 the 2nd. Break up 40 per range. All ages from 16yr to 80yr most 40yr - 60yr range. I got a lot out of the class time learning when to shoot and what to expect if I did. It really made me think through different situations before they happen. They have a $1200 course where you get a semi auto xd and all the gear you'll need for the class plus 5 days of training and a utah cwp. All you need is 800 rounds of ammo and you're ready to go. They have alot of Email specials so I wouldn't get a membership while at class, if you want to go back. My shooting skills improved a bunch, easy 2 shots to center mass from holster in 1.5 sec. I know I must sound like a salesman, but I really look forward to going and I would highly recommend.
Why not try the Firearms Academy of Seattle and take a class with a guest instructor like Ken Hackathorn or Massad Ayoob? MUCH cheaper and a class by a known top tier instructor. Or even Clint Smith down at Thunder Ranch. Both those are a lot less money and taught by instructors that are well known in the industry and get the training from the source rather than a wannabee. Frontsite is too much money and the instructors are not even in the same league.
It' called FRONTSIGHT. How can you critize some place you have never been or know nothing about. I wish I had had FS training 30 years ago. These are not wannabees, they are retired military, sheriff and LEO that are willing to share there expertise and experience with us. FS also trains 250 to 450 students every week including law enforcement and military personel. My first trip there I shared a range with several military on leave, sheriff deputy, DEA officer, a veterinarian and wife, and an emergency room physician. If you want to maintain any credibility, comment on something you know about.
Sorry to irritate you or cause you too much grief but I know plenty about the place. Sorry that I misspelled the name, that happens sometimes. But the simple fact is that I suggested that there would be better places to spend one's hard earned money than at a place that has had as much money issues as FRONTSIGHT or Mr. Piazza have. Having trained and taught with credible credible instructors I know a little about what is good training and what is not. And since my son is a Tennessee state instructor, and has trained with top tier instructors, and was sought by FRONTSIGHT (is that better?) to be an instructor, and has been there and seen what exactly they do, perhaps I might have a little more information about the place than some. Save some money and head off to FAS, InSight,Thunder Ranch, Lethal Force Institute, Gunsite, or or get invited to the NTI, or train with Farnham, Givens, Hamilton, Cirrillo (now deceased), or Col. Jeff Cooper (also deceased), or the myriads of those who have been in the training industry and have a proven track record before you get too mad. The OP was asking an opinion and I gave one, how is it that you got so bent out of shape over an opinion? FRONTSIGHT (happy now?) training is overly expensive and offers nothing that one can't get better training for a better price from a better instructor. Don't get mad at me because someone chose to go to a overpriced school and fell for a "free" XD, belt, and t-shirt offer to get them in. But this is America, go where you want to. I simply want the most bang for my buck.
Found this, is this the same guy that wrote the book?
I'm not going to go over every article he's written, but here's a taste of what I mean. I originally wrote this back in '05, in response to an article Ayoob posted in Combat handguns. But his style hasn't changed.........
Ayoobs spectacle......uh.....I mean article.......
Self-Defense & The Law A Court-Proof Trigger? The case for the Double-Action Only; 16 Case Reports.
In the Feb 2005 issue of Combat Handguns, Ayboob jacks his jaws as usual and mixes fact with his own made up fiction that gives the reader an impression that a DAO is the only way to go. What is also interesting is the sub title on the page where the article starts, "Pistol Design is important in court - sixteen cases show you why!"
From the above you would think that there are 16 "cases" where the trigger and/or gun design was liability **** or saved the shooter from the same.
Read on...........
Results?
3 cases went to grand jury or court and none returned any type of guilty verdict.
1 case resulted in a lawsuit, but we don't know the results.
12 cases didn't go to court.
Ayboobs arguments are very poor for DAO court-proof trigger.
In Case 16 no shot was fired and he includes it as a point for DAO triggers, the boy is off his rocker........how can he say this if nothing happened?
He's supposing again..........as usual.
He makes a case for DAO, but routinely carries a 1911 cocked & locked.......go figure.
Ayboob is supposed to be a court expert. I hope he does a better job in court than he does here.........
Back in 1991 Ayboob was a guest at our Wa. State Firearms Instructors week long seminar and 3 gun shoot. Its put on every year and we invite guest instructors........in the past we've had Cooper, Taylor, Hackathorn, Clint Smith, Awerbuck, Todd Jarrett.......and many other 'big' names in the industry.
Along with having classes for us, we put on a friendly 3-gun competition.
That year when Ayboob was there, he entered himself in our 3 gun shoot. He had an AD with his rifle, while other shooters were still getting ready for a particular stage........so many of us didn't have hearing protection on. He just looked around as if it was someone else, then when called on the carpet about it........he made up alot of excuses, then made a fuss when the Range Masters told him he was done because of it. The guy has no class, and many of writings are suspect.
They guy has wore out his welcome in alot of the L.E. circles across the nation......... he's no longer thought of so highly as he was many years ago.