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While I am glad that Fred Meyer will begin (again) to sell ammo/guns and I plan to support them (looking at the list of locations that will only be when I am on the road), I was SHOCKED to see some of the people on this thread who say they will support Freddies.

On other threads, these folks have represented themselves to be very conservative and intolerant of those that don't stay 100% true to the cause. So....I hate to be the one to mention this, but....Fred Meyer employees are.......GASP!!!!.....UNION! I don't know how this fits in with right wing dogma and I am not sure which takes precedence: the hate of unions or the love of guns. But, I do know that many of you are probably conflicted. Who wants to buy ammo at a store where employees are fairly paid and are able to bargain for better working conditions?

My suggestion: Buy your ammo at Wal-Mart where employees are underpaid and exploited. That way you know that you are supporting a true union busting red-state conservative corporation instead of a liberal (aka unionized) store when you buy your ammo. :s0155:

As one of a handful of this forum's resident gun-totin' lefties and an organized labor advocate, I am going to give three cheers to Fred Meyer and continue spending money in their stores. It is nice to support a store who supports my causes.

Sounds to me that you sir have the Walmart customer mentality. I myself do not support Walmart per their firearm buying policies, I do NO shopping at Walmart because of it. I do however shop at BiMart as it is employee owned and you can see who your purchases are benefiting. I have a sister and a brother that work for Fred Meyer/Kroeger but that does not mean I support their store. I do my shopping where it benefits the employees and not the union upper class. Maybe, just maybe this is why Freddy's is so high on prices that the majority of the employees shop at K-Mart and BiMart and even Walmart.:s0159::s0159: That was more like 4cents.

Now back to the actual topic at hand. Freddy's when selling firearms before had a fair selection but they were just like BiMart in only carring belly button guns. I thought they're prices were high at the time because BiMart had the same guns usually 10-25 dollars cheaper. Of course that was when BiMart sold handguns too. At least they are back on the band wagon of supporting the second ammendment.:s0155:
 
Though I don't shop at Fred's much, I will buy from them for this reason.

We need to support the stores that do have firearms and ammo. Because if we don't, they won't sell our toys. Bottom line is they are doing it to get more of our money, that is what it's all about for them. And there is nothing wrong with that, that's the way business works.

If you want to see more FM stores carry our kind of toys, let them know buy contacting their customer service dept. and then buy some stuff from them. That is what they notice, how much merchandise they sell.

And as far as unions go if you don't want to support them then don't, but they place the base wage for industries and benefits, not the government or the employers. Unions were once on the right wing side and have switched to the left, in my opinion my union dues should not support any political bias. When they do they do not represent all their members.
OK, I'm off my soapbox. Maybe we should start another thread for this subject.
 
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Sounds to me that you sir have the Walmart customer mentality. I myself do not support Walmart per their firearm buying policies, I do NO shopping at Walmart because of it.

Either I was not clear enough, too sarcastic, or you did not read what I typed....

Let me be clear. I believe in customer service and quality and am willing to pay for both. I also believe in fair labor practices. Wal-Mart scores a zero in those three categories (although they have provided more benefits to more employees over the last three years). I am not sure that sounds like a wal-mart customer, but I don't know because most of my friends boycott them too.

I have never checked out walmart's firearms policy (though I know people on this forum buy ammo there) because I could never look past their poor labor practices to get to the point where I was examining their second amendment bona fides.

"Union upper class"

I get it. That's one of those oxymorons like jumbo shrimp.
 
Union upper class? Whawhawhat? As an aside, in liberal Portland no less, the IBEW union membership is roughly 45% registered Republican, 45% registered Democrat and 10% independent. Not all of us mindlessly goose step to the polls and vote how our leaders tell us to. If a Democrat supports gun rights, I'll vote for him. If a Republican doesn't, I'll pass him by just as fast.

I stopped by at the Scappoose Freddy's earlier today. The prices seemed pretty good. Of the few non-military firearm prices that I am vaguely familiar with, they had a Ruger 10/22 carbine for $209 (cheaper than Walmart, I think), A Walther P22 for about $350 and a Taurus Judge for $480. I picked up some .38 Hydra shocks and some .22 minimags and expressed my thanks to the manager for their decision to sell these items.

Interestingly, an older woman from Canada walked by me, looked at the counter and expressed mild shock that such things could be purchased here in the States. In Canada, I was informed, these are illegal, and with no crime, are not needed anyway. That, of course, rates another 'whawhawhat?' :) .

Keith
 
Union upper class? Whawhawhat? As an aside, in liberal Portland no less, the IBEW union membership is roughly 45% registered Republican, 45% registered Democrat and 10% independent. Not all of us mindlessly goose step to the polls and vote how our leaders tell us to.

"Union upper class" as in who you give that rather large percentage of your pay check to, Not the guys who actually do the work.
 
Large percentage? Well, it amounts to a few percent of gross yes, but I'm much more concerned with the much larger confiscatory state and federal income tax I'm paying (lets not forget all of the hidden taxes in fees, gasoline, etc that everyone pays for). Right now I'm claiming like 10 or 11 on my W-4 and even though we're still in mid-November, so far I've been set back something like $15.5K on Federal and a bit less on State. Thats a much larger percentage than the $2.5K in overall working dues and 'market recovery' dues that I'll be paying by years' end. BTW, for those doing the mental jugggling, I've been working out-of-state in rather harsh dangerous working conditions putting in between 5 10s and 7 12's for the last 1.5 years which is why my gross has been so high.

Keith
 
so you're saying they are also selling handguns? that just blows me away.!
I almost went over to scappoose to day but figured I'd wait a bit just to make sure the roll out was complete.
I'll go over there one day this week and scope it out...and buy something.
 
I saw SA and DA revolvers like Ruger, Smith and Taurus and semiautos like Walther, Ruger and Springfield, plus others...maybe 25 or 30 different models. I don't specifically remember seeing any exotic 'black rifles' but there were regular hunting rifles plus different kinds of tactical and hunting shotguns; similar what a person sees in Walmart's rifle section.

Keith
 
Union upper class?
"Union upper class" as in who you give that rather large percentage of your pay check to, Not the guys who actually do the work.

Lets remember guys, that for the most part, the average grocery store employee has no choice in joining those unions. It's join or hit the road.
It is interesting to see a new store go up somewhere.... the only time you see a whole store voting on union membership without being intimidated by the union reps. When Safeway put in a store in Milwaukee a few years ago their employees were given that choice, the vast majority voted " Not no..... but Oh H--L No!" :s0154:

+1 on Bimart, employee owned but still reasonable prices.

Obviously Freddies is doing the return to gun sales very carefully. All of the stores on the list are away from the big cities (and the anti-gunners).
 
Lets remember guys, that for the most part, the average grocery store employee has no choice in joining those unions. It's join or hit the road.
It is interesting to see a new store go up somewhere.... the only time you see a whole store voting on union membership without being intimidated by the union reps. When Safeway put in a store in Milwaukee a few years ago their employees were given that choice, the vast majority voted " Not no..... but Oh H--L No!" :s0154:

+1 on Bimart, employee owned but still reasonable prices.

Obviously Freddies is doing the return to gun sales very carefully. All of the stores on the list are away from the big cities (and the anti-gunners).

It's not very well advertised in the work place, but in OR you can't be forced to join a union. You still have to pay fees that go towards negotiation costs, but I assume they are much less than the monthly dues the rest of us pay. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you lose the job protection you would have as a dues-paying member.
 
It's not very well advertised in the work place, but in OR you can't be forced to join a union. You still have to pay fees that go towards negotiation costs, but I assume they are much less than the monthly dues the rest of us pay. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure you lose the job protection you would have as a dues-paying member.

Ya, and that would be an option for who ? Kinda like saying you don't have you to be a muslim, but you still need to drop and pray towards Mecca ! The reason it's not well advertised is because it's a worthless option. .......
BTW
You might want to check your facts on that "much less than the monthly dues" thing, I have a close relative who was presented with that choice, the UFCW union "tax" was considerable.

I dont want to contribute any more to an off topic tangent here. If the "Mighty" union fans want to start another thread I am pretty sure you will be found.

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PlayboyPenguin
You asked which stores,this is the email I recieved from their sg buyer recently.

"I am happy to hear you are excited about our hunting department. We are all excited about it here as well!



The stores we are setting up this year in Oregon are:

Warrenton (set 2 weeks ago)

Brookings (set yesterday)

Newberg (sets this Friday)

Scappoose (sets this Friday)

Bend (ETA after Christmas)



I agree with you; I would love to set more stores, but we'll have to see how these do first. If only we had been able to get the roll out completed before hunting season.... In a perfect world..

Thank you for your feedback.

Cheryl

Cheryl Kindwall

Buyer- Fred Meyer Sporting Goods

Camping, Fishing, and Hunting

503-797-5795
 
hopefully if it all goes well they'll do the same here in Seattle. high hopes i know, but if they made it like the porn section in a video store then everything would be fine and i could get my ammo :D

I just got an email back from Fred Meyers (Cheryl Kindwall) and she says

"Regarding Washington, I agree with you! I would love to expand in to that state but I am not able to provide any information at this time. I hope we will be able to do so in the near future."

Oh well.
 

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