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Following directions. - Why you do not want to be me.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Goosebrown, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. Goosebrown

    Goosebrown Beaverton Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer

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    So I shoot Speed Steel at TriCounty. I started with an XDM45 and decided the guys with the 10/22s were having more fun so I got one at BiMart and shot it a bit asking everyone what upgrades to make...

    Number one comment was change the trigger before anything else. Sounded reasonable, so I researched and there are about 8 or 10 good choices. All were $200-250 except for the factory replacement BX trigger which was (is) on sale at BiMart for $60. Nothing flashy in bright brushed aluminium, but goodish reviews over all.

    Well let me tell you that if you ever decide to install a BX trigger, there is ONE thing you want to do before you even touch the plastic it comes in. DO NOT TOUCH IT. In fact I suggest you get your spouse or child or friend to buy it for you and carry it to you so that you don't touch it in the package.

    Wrapped around the replacement trigger housing is a gray gizmo that snaps over the housing from back to front where it clips. Its purpose is to stop the hammer from falling if you accidentally or non-accidentally dry fire the trigger which, of course, everyone does to test the trigger.

    THAT GRAY COVER IS SUPER IMPORTANT

    The instructions tell you it is important. I can confirm that Ruger's lawyers were not having a hissy fit, it is indeed important.

    If you dry fire the trigger housing when the clip is off and the assembly is NOT in the receiver, the hammer over extends and you can't pull it back without removing the hammer from the assembly, re aligning it, and then re-inserting it into the housing.

    Well that'd be fine, but the same problem happens when you are removing the gray clip. If you unclip the ends and move it to the rear and accidentally pull the trigger, the hammer goes down, won't come back up and now blocks the gray gizmo on the trigger housing in your hand.

    After careful consideration, I cut the gray gizmo in half without damaging the trigger assembly and removed it. However, being new to Rugers, I had no idea that all the roll pins were a size small so that they all fell out the side of the assembly and I suddenly had a handful of parts all over the table and n-1 roll pins to put them back together.

    Now YouTube.

    After an hour of watching people do a range of asshattery to their 10/22s I figured that I could fix this.

    All I needed to do was canabalize the original assembly and pull a pin there.

    Well it worked... sort of... The trigger is in. The new one, and visually you can't tell it from the old one. (VERY important to keep them separate!) The trigger works and it feels pretty nice. No gauge but I think it is close to the 2.5-3# they claim. Everything back in one rifle.

    Total time 7 hours of fiddling with the springs and pins and turning to put in another pin and having the last pin fall out. Now. Sitting here. I have to say use some scotch tape if you need to on the pins to keep them in.

    Point of the story is READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. NEVER TOUCH THE ACTUAL TRIGGER of the new assembly till it is in the reciever. BE CAREFUL OF PINS FALLING OUT. Plan extra time and be sure YouTube is working.

    That is all.
     
  2. No_Regerts

    No_Regerts United States Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes in situations like that I throw things and curse heathanistically. It feels a little better afterward and then a little copenhagen to lower my blood pressure.
     
  3. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Directions . . .DIRECTIONS YOU SAY . . . We don't need no stteeennnkkkiiinnn directions!?!?!

    Sheldon
     
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  4. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    HAHA...

    I was working on one of my 10/22 triggers and taking the insides apart when I heard something make a noise when it hit the wall across the room. Yup.

    I've been there, I feel your pain.

    Needless to say, that trigger when I was done was better than anything else I've experienced, had it down probably to 1.5lb or less. 1/16" creep then broke like a nose that has been broken a few times before.
     
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  5. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Well you know what they say, that which does not kill you gets you laughed at on the internet.
    lol
     
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  6. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    That's right. Trial and error are my instructions...lol
     
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  7. P7id10T

    P7id10T Cedar Hills Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Good on ya man for your perseverance!
     
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  8. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    That sucks, man! But.....LOLOLOL!!!;):s0101:, BTW!!!
     
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  9. teflon97239

    teflon97239 Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Directions are a very important resource for when I finally break them out to determine where I first f__ed up.
     
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  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    That's why I refer to them as "destructions". :D
     
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  11. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I work with a Marine. He's good at pounding square pegs in round holes. No instructions required... :D
     
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  12. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    That's the kinda thing that turns what should be a fun day working on firearms into a red faced exasperating event. Just be happy there wasn't flying springs involved:p
     
  13. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I went big buck and dropped in a Volquartsen trigger.
    That and a Beyer's barrel (from Forks Wa) got me one hole groups at 40 yards with 5 different brands of 22,including the Remington crap.
     
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  14. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Yeabut who's got the better story?. Goosebrown is our hero!
     
  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    My temper doesn't afford me to try stuff like that. It ends up with me destroying thing.
    I would rather read others' stories any day
     
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  16. edslhead

    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Too rich for my blood. I just move closer to the target.
     
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  17. 41Slinger

    41Slinger Harrisburg Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Hammers are smithing tools too, right ?
     
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  18. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You know you could have just set the new triggers safety and that would have saved you a lot of grief.
     
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  19. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Interesting, I just let my friends 12 year old daughter put mine in. She had it done in about 8 minutes.
     
  20. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I've still got a $50.00 trigger upgrade for my KelTec sitting in the safe because it ran so well after it came back from the factory I didn't want to mess with it.:eek: