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Comparing my HK P30 vs FNP45. The FN has a better trigger, the P30 stock trigger is horrid. The FN uses a lot of MIM parts, the HK materials and fit is top notch. The FN grip feels kinda funky to me (plastic ridges) vs a sandpaper feel on the HK (which is great).
Can't tell you which is more accurate because I never shoot groups with pistols.
What is the opinion on the quality of FNP vs the HK?
If you are just asking about quality: The FNP is a quality pistol that will do everything the HK will do. Having said that the HK is better. It is unlikely you will ever have a problem with the FNP. I suspect it is an order of magnitude less likely with the HK. At least that is my opinion.
FWIW I currently have FNP, FN, and HK pistols and think that they are all good guns.
This post made me laugh.
It's better! Trust me!
This post kinda makes me laugh,since you don't really say which one is "better"
BTW a FNP is made by FN
I have had a couple USPs in the past.No p30's though. If the p30 is typical of a H&K quality then the H&K is better than the FN FNPs.
FNP is a fine gun though,my daily carry.
I wasn't trying to say which was better....I forgot my quotation marks...
Kinda like " I read it on the internet, so it must be true. "
( ...HK owner....but I won't pretend to know which is "best" )
I wasn't going to respond to this, but maybe I should clarify:
I was speaking to the quality: HK is better quality - as defined by the two sentences following that statement in the post. i.e. lower defect rate. That is of course my opinion, which I stated was only opinion in the sentence after that.
I don't have the geometric proof of this fact, that is why I used words like 'suspect' when making statments of my opinion.
My opinion is based on the fact that I personally own guns from both MFG's and am a member of the HK and FN forums as well.
That doesn't make me right, but it does give me at least an informed opinion, which I think the OP was soliciting.
Glad you got a laugh.
If you are just asking about quality: The FNP is a quality pistol that will do everything the HK will do. Having said that the HK is better. It is unlikely you will ever have a problem with the FNP. I suspect it is an order of magnitude less likely with the HK. At least that is my opinion.
FWIW I currently have FNP, FN, and HK pistols and think that they are all good guns.
I have both the FNH FNP-9 USG (safety/decocker) and HK P30, both in DA/SA 9MM. They're both well made but to your question of quality, in my opinion the Germans beat the Belgians but you pay for it.
The FNH grip ergonomics are not as good - two different backstraps - one is not comfortable, the other one is okay but not spectacular. The HK gives three different backstraps and different width sideplates so you can make your own combination for a better fit.
I prefer the FNP-9 standard decocker position on the side of the frame vs the P30's on the back of the slide. I like both the conventional mag release of the FNH and the trigger guard mag release levers of the HK and adjust easily between the two.
If you're a fit and finish guy, both are well done but the FNP-9 in the various caliber offerings have a tendency to have small pieces get scraped off of the bottom of the left side of the slide where the takedown lever is. I'm more for function over fit and finish for SD purposes and for the low price these sell for, I don't worry about it.
That said, the P30 costs a bunch more than the FNP-9 and are harder to find on the used market. The cheapest I've seen it go for new is $812 + shipping + transfer + sales tax in WA.
Both of these have been totally reliable and are easy to shoot well.
While I can't speak for the FN, I did purchase this H&K USP 9 a little over a year ago. While the pistol is "OK", it most definitely isn't anything to get excited about. To be perfectly honest it doesn't do anything a Glock can't do for almost half the price. Ergonomically I find the Glock far better. The magazine release on the H&K can easily pinch your fingers, and is not easy to get at for fast reloads without far more finger manipulation. The magazines are not as well made as the metal lined, drop free Glock factory magazines. And much like the gun itself, are terribly overpriced. Another bad feature is their accessory rail is proprietary, and not universal like Glock and all the rest. So you are forced to buy an adapter. I'm told H&K has since gone to a universal Picatinny type rail on their guns.
On the plus side the trigger guard is nice and large, and will easily accommodate gloved fingers in cold climates. And the gun runs well, and has very good sight acquisition. But again so does a Glock, and several other pistols in this class. I will admit I bought into the H&K hype when I purchased this weapon. I have never owned a H&K before this, and most likely won't buy another. Not because of anything they lack, but rather because of the value they don't represent. There are simply a large number of pistols in the same class avaliable for far less money.
Another thing is H&K has a reputation of being a bit full of themselves. A lot of this is because the bulk of their sales come from military contracts, and not civilian sales. So they have somewhat of a "buyer be damned" attitude toward us lowly consumers. A bit like Ferrari in that regard, in that they almost act as if they're doing you favor selling you one. Add it all up and you can get pretty much the same quality wise in a Polymer framed weapon for a lot less, and be just as happy. And you'll be buying it from a company that actually appreciates your business far more than the elf's in the Black Forest.