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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by torpedoman, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. torpedoman

    torpedoman land of corrupt politicians Member

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  2. bugeye

    bugeye Oregon Well-Known Member

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    From the cite “As the president said, we should focus on sound, effective steps that will keep guns out of the hands of the criminals, fugitives, people with serious mental illness, and others who have no business possessing a gun and who are prohibited by laws on the books from owning a gun,”

    Yeap, this is just terrible, he's repressing me!
     
  3. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    Idiots will alway be idiots no matter whatis going on around. $&@$$&&$&$
     
  4. whatzhizname

    whatzhizname Southern Oregon and occasionally PDX Member

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    What he is talking about is ending in-state face-to-face sales, such as those done in the classified section of this board. Parse his words and think about it.
     
  5. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Well, that's the laws now! (about 25,000 of them) So when is he going to enforce what is already on the books? After all we all know that any new laws are going to be instantly obeyed by the criminals just like they obey the ones already on the books!

    Why don't they go after doctors and nurses that kill more than 400 TIMES as many people as guns do? (If the government REALLY wanted to save lives they need to limit medical mistakes and limit access to motor vehicles.

    Deaths from avoidable medical error more than double in past decade, investigation shows

    "The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States"

    From: http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sep...s_leading_cause_of_death_and_injury_in_us.htm

    "Of the total 323,993 deaths among Medicare patients in those years who developed one or more patient-safety incidents, 263,864, or 81 percent, of these deaths were directly attributable to the incident(s)."

    From: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/11856.php)

    Or backyard swimming pools that a child is more than 100 times as likely to die from than be shot? (“If you own a gun and have a swimming pool in the yard, the swimming pool is almost 100 times more likely to kill a child than the gun is.” The Chicago Sun-Times.)

    8 former US Presidents have been NRA Members
    80 MILLION gun owners didn't shoot anyone today, a few criminals did!

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    The "Feedback Score" is low by 4, not everyone posts it I guess.

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  6. Spad

    Spad Kennewick,WA, the desert side Active Member

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    Our Dictator President, you will notice he has selective enforcement of laws, he should be empeached...Spad
     
  7. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    How does this change anything? I for one have no problem with adhering to the laws in place and if a background check is going to be required for FTF sales I really don't care. I'm not a criminal and can legally obtain any gun for sale on these boards anyway and I'm assuming so can everybody else. And what are they talking about with the gun show loophole? Isn't it law to do a background check there now anyway? I can understand those of you not wanting big brother to know what you have even if it is legal but otherwise what's so major about this? He didn't even say anything about hi-cap magazines which is what would piss me off because who likes to spend all day reloading?
     
  8. Brutis

    Brutis Salem,Oregon New Member

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    My problem is people who can't operate a firearm, are the ones chipping away at my FREEDOM by passing worthless gun laws that only punish law abiding citizens .
     
  9. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    Hahahaha! This is too true!
     
  10. 74sporty

    74sporty metro portland Active Member

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    I cant even begin to imagine how detailed and tedious those 25,000 laws on guns are. I hope they do trim and streamline the legislation to where its practical and relevant. I dont know many gun laws, but i've been getting by on the ones i do know. Like no cross state sales without an ffl. No Oregon sale without ODL and i even see some people only willing to sell to those with CWP's. And that wouldn't be TOO bad of an idea. How many punk gang bangers you think got a CWP?
     
  11. 19 Adam

    19 Adam rural Clackamas County, Oregon Active Member

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    Every good gun owner should be a member of NRA if for no other reason than to stay informed on the increased regulations and to have a voice in DC.

    A Federal tax (stamp) for every gun and ammo purchase to fund ATF enforcement efforts would be no different than the gas tax for transportation projects. Currently you do not pay taxes on FTF purchases but that could change if regulation requires original gun owners to report FTF resales of guns.
     
  12. MA Duce

    MA Duce Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The British passed a stamp act on their colonies. As I recall it didn't work out too well for them.
     
  13. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    Thank you, this is the type of answer I was looking for. While I do not see this anywhere in the article I would not throw this into the realm of impossible. On a side note, I enjoy how we can have political differences on this site and still have meaningful information being thrown into the mix to discuss amongst one another.
     
  14. absoluterik07

    absoluterik07 Salem, OR Member

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    Yea, we rock.
     
  15. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Wow! just wow, it's one thing to be in denial but to defend those that would take your rights away is over the top.
     
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    Brutis Salem,Oregon New Member

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    Every time I hear someone say TAX I think... Bend over here it comes again ... to hear it from gun owners on NWFA is disturbing are you asking for more?
     
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    wyecoyote Pierce County, WA New Member

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    Maybe someone should slip in an amendment to repeal the 1986 hughes amendment. I mean if they are making them safer then why not get rid of the 1986 hughes amendment.
     
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    Brutis Salem,Oregon New Member

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    I cant believe PRES. REGAN signed that crap. I second the motion for REPEAL!!!
     
  19. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    That's the thing, you can't trust any party when it comes to gun control.
     
  20. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    You have a warm fuzzy feeling that Obama is looking to do the right thing? I sure don't have it.