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First gun: shotgun?

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Stress, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. Stress

    Stress E. Oregon New Member

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    Waiting on my tax return to purchase my first gun. Looking for something for in home protection mainly to store in my room. Any suggestions would be great. I'm new to the community so any advice would be great.
     
  2. chase

    chase Wilsonville, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    My first gun was a Remington 11-87 semi-auto. Although I wouldn't recommend it it for home protection due to its length (26"). I would recommend a simple handgun like a glock or possibly a pistol grip shotgun. It just all depends what you want to use it in addition to security at home and if it will be your only gun. For you money a mossberg 18" shotty and or a Glock 23 would be ideal. Good luck
     
  3. sheepman

    sheepman Las Vegas NV Member

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    While I would use a hand gun (double action revolver), a shotgun is probably the best first gun, especially if it will be your only gun. A mossberg 500 combo (with a short and long barrel) is a good choice. A handgun would be better to maneuver in a building but also takes more practice to get competent with. You really should have both.
     
  4. Boats

    Boats Flicking A Switch To Open My Third Eye Well-Known Member

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    I agree with a handgun as an "only/first" gun. Make sure it's in a service caliber you can handle, e.g. .38 Special or 9mm and above.

    However, a 12 or 20 gauge pump or break action shotgun should be the first long arm. They feature a simple manual of arms, ammo was available during the latest shortage, and if you are single, a shotgun won't freak out your lady friends nearly as much as discovering your tricked out AR in the closet.:D
     
  5. Stress

    Stress E. Oregon New Member

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    No need to worry about the stress :) I'm thinking I want a shotty something short and under let's say $600..
     
  6. onearmedswordsman

    onearmedswordsman Hillsboro, OR Member

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    Handgun: 4" 357mag revolver, or maybe 3" if you think you might want to CC.
    Shotty: Mossberg 590
     
  7. cyclesarge

    cyclesarge Eugene OR, DUH! We're ALL in the NORTHWEST Well-Known Member

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    I say "shotgun" since you are saying "first" implying there will be a second gun or more. There is always an abundance of ammo, they're cheap and easy to operate. Go with a combo like was already mentioned, 28" + 18 1/2" and you should be covered for SHTF scenario's. I don't currently own a shotgun, because I don't find them challenging enough, they are too easy to hit a target with, which is a good thing if you are not looking for a "challenge".
     
  8. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    Have you had any experience shooting before?
    First gun doesn't always mean no experience.
    I didn't get my first gun until I was 30.

    But I had 12 years infantry training and experience from army cadet through regular platoon commander.

    Pros and cons of Shotgun vs Handgun
    Pump action Shotgun
    Pros:
    Stopping power
    Simple
    Efficient
    Reliable
    Cheap
    Can be used for dual purpose (skeet/defense/hunting small and big game - thanks cyclesarge)
    More accurate with longer ranges using rifled slugs.

    Cons:
    Not concealable or portable (Only really for home use - can't put it in the glovebox!)
    Hard to carry a lot of ammo.

    Handgun
    Pros:
    Concealable
    Portable - including a lot of extra ammo
    A wide variety of ammo available for training and defense

    Cons:
    Generally more expensive to buy
    More complex (if Semi auto handgun)
    Need to train in IA (Immediate Action) drills for stoppages etc.


    So either way, get training.
    Personally if I only had 1 gun it would be my Glock 19, but luckily we're not limited to 1 gun!

    My first three guns in order of purchase were Glock 19, Mossberg 590 and Ruger MkIII
     
  9. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    Other factors to consider:

    Do you have kids in the house?
    If so it's cheaper to lock up a handgun than a long gun as far as safes go.
    Obviously there are cable locks etc.

    Have any friends that shoot? It would really help to handle and fire a variety of handguns.

    Do you plan to carry concealed eventually?

    For about $600 you should be able to pick up a reliable 9mm handgun and enroll in a basic handgun course too. Or do the course first (they loan guns too) then decide if you want a handgun or a shotgun.
     
  10. cyclesarge

    cyclesarge Eugene OR, DUH! We're ALL in the NORTHWEST Well-Known Member

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    This:"Can be used for dual purpose (skeet/defense)"
    should be " Can be used for triple purpose (skeet/defense/ hunting everything from squirrels and birds to deer)
     
  11. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    you're right there for sure!
    Edited other post.
     
  12. Stress

    Stress E. Oregon New Member

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    You guys are great. Thanks for all the help. I'm thinking a 18 and 26 inch conversion would be good for skeet rec uses and home defense. Any particular brands? Where should I buy it? I've browsed bi mart and big 5 but maybe I should buy privately or at a gun show. Sorry I'm totally new to this. Any help is appreciated!
     
  13. Stress

    Stress E. Oregon New Member

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    More guns are definitely coming. a pistol will definitely be my second purchase once i take a handling class.
     
  14. cbzdel

    cbzdel Tacoma, WA Member

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    I got a Remington 870 from Walmart and then got a 18" barrel off the internet.

    The price I paid at Walmart plus the barrel was cheaper than getting the same 870 from a gun shop!

    That way I have a target and a HD shotgun.

    They also had Mossberg 500 home/feild combos for cheaper than what my setup costs. But I went with Rem, because I was told their quality was better.

    Edit: for $600 bucks you would probably be able to get both a shotgun with HD and target barrels and a handgun if you really shop around! I just sold my Ruger SR9 9mm handgun for $300 bucks, I am sure you could get your shotgun setup for <$300

    Yeah this one!
    http://www.bimart.com/skudetail.aspx?loc=k.208540_s.681A_c.61A_d.57&nm=Firearms
     
  15. ORBrit

    ORBrit Eugene Member

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    +1 on the Mossberg 500 combo!
     
  16. Stress

    Stress E. Oregon New Member

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    Do you know if that Mossburg from bi mart has the foregrip that has the slide tube that rides on the magazine tube?
     
  17. cyclesarge

    cyclesarge Eugene OR, DUH! We're ALL in the NORTHWEST Well-Known Member

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    I've seen them both ways at BiMart. If it has a nut at the end of the foregrip, it does. If it has pins at the end of the foregrip (nearest the receiver end) it does not.
     
  18. das_napeth

    das_napeth Snohomish, WA Member

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    Stress may not be old enough for a pistol yet. But if he is lookin at that price for a shotgun I would suggest a Saiga. Nothing against pumps( i have a 500 and remington 887 myself) But it is hard to deny an AK action semi-auto mag fed with options for aftermarket parts i.e. collapsible stock and tri rail for a vetical grip and light