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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by kaoboi503, Aug 15, 2011.
I hope this doesn't just get brushed off as a conspiracy theory.
Washington Times journalists Robert Farago and Ralph Dixon cite a “CIA insider” to make the claim that Operation Fast and Furious was a Central Intelligence Agency-orchestrated program to arm the Sinaloa drug cartel, a group that was also given the green light to fly tons of cocaine into the United States.
“In congressional testimony, William Newell, former ATF special agent in charge of the Phoenix Field Division, testified that the Internal Revenue Service, Drug Enforcement Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement were “full partners” in Operation Fast and Furious. Mr. Newell’s list left out the most important player: the CIA. According to a CIA insider, the agency had a strong hand in creating, orchestrating and exploiting Operation Fast and Furious,” report Farago and Nixon.
The program, with its designated cover of tracking where guns went so drug lords who purchased them could later be arrested downstream, was actually a deliberate effort to prevent the Los Zetas drug cartel from staging a successful coup d’etat against the government of Felipe Calderon by arming rival gang Sinaloa, according to the Times writers, a relationship that extended to “(allowing) the Sinaloas to fly a 747 cargo plane packed with cocaine into American airspace – unmolested.”
“The CIA made sure the trade wasn’t one-way. It persuaded the ATF to create Operation Fast and Furious – a “no strings attached” variation of the agency’s previous firearms sting. By design, the ATF operation armed the Mexican government’s preferred cartel on the street level near the American border, where the Zetas are most active,” states the report.
The notion that Fast and Furious was used as a cover through which to arm the the Sinaloa cartel would explain why the feds showed little interest in following up where guns ended up once they left the United States.
The Obama administration and the ATF claim that the Fast and Furious program was part of a sting operation to catch leading Mexican drug runners, and yet it’s admitted that the government stopped tracking the firearms as soon as they reached the border, defeating the entire object of the mission.
It would also account for the fact that the federal government failed to prevent Sinaloa importing tons of cocaine into the U.S.
Back in April, Jesus Vicente Zambada Niebla, the “logistical coordinator” for the Sinaloa drug-trafficking gang that was responsible for purchasing the CIA torture jet that crashed with four tons on cocaine on board back in 2007 told the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois in Chicago that he had been working as a U.S. government asset for years.
According to court transcripts, Niebla was allowed to import “multi-ton quantities of cocaine” into the U.S. as a result of his working relationship with the FBI, Homeland Security, the U.S. Department of Justice and the Drug Enforcement Administration.
But the notion that Fast and Furious was solely an effort to isolate the Los Zetas cartel isn’t consistent with the fact that one of the gang’s kingpins recently told Mexican federal police that the group purchased its weapons directly from U.S. government officials inside America.
“They are bought in the U.S. The buyers (on the U.S. side of the border) have said in the past that sometimes they would acquire them from the U.S. Government itself,” Rejón Aguilar told police.
As we reported years ago, former DEA agent Cele Castillo has blown the whistle on how the US government controls the Los Zetas drug smuggling gang and uses it as the front group for their narco-empire.
With the gang having first been trained at the infamous School of the Americas in Fort Benning, Georgia, Castillo affirms that Los Zetas are still working for the US government in protecting drug routes to keep the wheels of Wall Street well-oiled. Castillo has gone on the record to state that the commandos are working directly for the US government drug cartel in carrying out hits on rival drug smugglers who aren’t paying their cut.
Fast and Furious may have served a dual purpose for the Obama administration.
Some evidence indicates the program was a plot on behalf of the administration to discredit the second amendment. While the feds were selling guns to Mexican drug gangs, Obama was simultaneously blaming drug violence on the flow of guns from border states to Mexico.
Even after the revelations surrounding the program became public, the ATF cited the trafficking of guns to Mexico as justification for a new regulation that has led to ATF intimidation of both gun sellers and purchasers, a policy which arrived months after President Obama told gun control advocate Sarah Brady that his administration was working “under the radar” to sneak attack the second amendment.
During a March 30 meeting between Jim and Sarah Brady and White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, at which Obama “dropped in,” the president reportedly told Brady, “I just want you to know that we are working on it (gun control)….We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar.”
The quote appeared in an April 11 Washington Post story about Obama’s gun control czar Steve Croley.
And the wash water gets dirtier still. There will be those from this site that will jump up and scream bloody murder for any incriminating evidence directed towards this President and administration, just be prepared for it.
I am going to need a ton of evidence before I buy the "747 full of cocaine" story. I spent a good portion of my life hauling cargo through the sky across the globe and the logistics of putting together a conspiracy large enough to plug all the holes in an operation like that seem out of the realm of possibility to me. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I'm just REAL curious about how it was pulled off if it did happen.
Some nice guns in the picture
It's just going to get muddier and messier and worse:
Left fights back: ATF thumbs nose at Issa as NY Times runs hit piece
Left fights back: ATF thumbs nose at Issa as NY Times runs hit piece - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com
That rattling sound you hear from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is the sound of wagons being circled.
Looks like the Times is trying to walk the libel tightrope. Maybe they're just moving further into the tabloid business.
No way would the the CIA secretly import drugs into the country for their gain. Thats just crazy thinking....
Or maybe not..
Mena Connection: Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA, Drug smuggling
they were doing it clear back in Nam. times.
90% of the people you ask will tell you that politicians are puppets and frauds, that gov is corrupt to the core, but then something like this surprises people?
no surprise.. and yes, the CIA has been importing drugs for decades. why? who knows? whatever reason they have at the time- DEA needs the numbers for funding, FBI wants to "follow it," black-ops need un-traceable funding, to line their own pockets... whatever. since they operate entirely in secret and outside the bounds of any legal parameters, they do, literally, whatever the **** they want, and frequently with the barest of rationalizing.
but im just guessing, of course.
Why smuggle drugs indeed. Look what it did for England, which fought WARS on behalf of the British East India Company to ensure that the flow of drugs into China could continue.
Opium Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Money, control, money, empire, and money.
I remember seeing the Air America planes coming and going allllllll the time back in the mid/late 80's when I was down south... DEEP south that is... like past Panama... sometimes. aranoid: