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Fire Mission!!! Oregon State University does survey on lead ammunition

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by xacex, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. xacex

    xacex United States Member

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    Stop this nonsense before it comes to your state or the EPA!

    This condor thing is getting out of hand. Now OSU is sending out a survey to "randomly selected" hunters to get a "feel" for how they would respond to a lead ammunition ban. If any of you bright fellows have a rebuttal that includes evidence against such a ban please feel free to send it off to the university. It is an open invitation to comment. Please be courteous, and factual.


    http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/jun/odfw-osu-survey-hunters-about-use-lead-ammunition
     
  2. xacex

    xacex United States Member

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  3. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    We would sure like to see a copy of this "Survey" just to see how LOADED the questions are.:mad:
     
  4. BigBull 301

    BigBull 301 PDX almost Well-Known Member

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    Is telling them to "Go tamp sand" courteous ?

    More anti-gun liberal B.S.
     
  5. xacex

    xacex United States Member

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    I am connected to the university, and may be able to get a copy indirectly through a profesor.
     
  6. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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  7. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Pleas do. It would be interesting to see how it is "Slanted", as most of them are.
     
  8. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    I was under the impression that lead shot isn't used much any more.
     
  9. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Would you attempt to confuse them with fact....:rolleyes:
    Don't you know all of those birds have lead detectors and search for every single pellet.:eek:
     
  10. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    For waterfowl, it is, since about 1994. For upland game outside of refuges, it is not.
    Curiously, multiple studies have shown the ban on lead shot to have had NO EFFECT on raptors and carrion birds, and the instances of lead toxicity related mortality.
    Which is why they are now turning to lead bullets.
    Even though no one from either side has suggested they restore the use of lead shot, before they move forward with more lead restrictions.
    Then there is the ATF's stance on Solid Copper bullets. The ATF doesn't like them at all, and has outlawed various designs of SC bullets, as they claim they have armor piercing capabilities. For the handgunners that hunt, this will result in a defacto ban on handgun hunting, as the ATF will tolerate zero AP capabilities in handgun slugs.

    From the last line of the press release here:
    http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archives/2014/jun/odfw-osu-survey-hunters-about-use-lead-ammunition
    Now, you know damn good and well where these surveys of "non-hunting Oregonians" will take place, and it won't be in ANY gun-friendly cities/counties in the state.
    OSU and the ODFW know this too.
    But the ODFW wants to be able to tell hunters "it's out of our hands," just like they did with hound hunting and bear baiting.

    It's not about lead folks.
    It's about making ammunition for those evil guns more expensive, and harder to get.
     
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