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Well over the years I have had a few 308 bolt guns come and go through my hands but somehow I never seem to keep one. Lately I have been loading a ton of 308 ammo for my Fal's and have been thinking of getting another 308 bolt gun to round out the crew. I have been perusing the classifieds here but all the good deals have been in other states. So, today I started looking at options for buying new. I was hoping to only spent $ 500 or so and did not have a lot of hope finding one with features I wanted. I was looking for a 20" barrel or so, threaded barrel, adjustable trigger, detachable box mag and preferably an optic rail. I was also hoping to keep it under 8.5 lbs full up as I would be hunting with it some as well as target shooting. Tall task right? Well I first concentrated on some savage offerings but couldn't quite find what I wanted for the money I was willing to spend. I briefly veered towards some ruger stuff when I stumbled onto the mossberg patriot line. I found this one with everything I wanted and all the reviews I read are mostly positive. For $460 out the door at my LGS, I decided to take a chance. Anybody have experience with mossberg's bolt guns? At that price I figure I can't get hurt too bad. I will update my thoughts after I receive it and shoot it.